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Title: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: bigzoomie on January 28, 2017, 17:19:18
Hey sailors, the official info machine says you guys have a new command badge as of last summer. And it would suggest, like everything else, what's old is new.

Can't seem to find an example online (one would think the RCN site would feature it but perhaps my googke-fu is weak). Does anyone have an example?
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Chief Stoker on January 28, 2017, 17:31:58
Hey sailors, the official info machine says you guys have a new command badge as of last summer. And it would suggest, like everything else, what's old is new.

Can't seem to find an example online (one would think the RCN site would feature it but perhaps my googke-fu is weak). Does anyone have an example?

Here you go.

http://reg.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/project.asp?lang=e&ProjectID=2784&ShowAll=1
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: bigzoomie on January 29, 2017, 15:59:16
Argh...the Public Register through the GG! I should know that! :facepalm:

Thanks for the link!  :salute:
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Oldgateboatdriver on January 29, 2017, 16:17:48
It's not the old RCN badge nor is it the old Maritime Command one, it's a bit of both (though, does the use of gold anchor means we are going to have to go back to gold instead of silver for our cap badges?).

However, can someone, for the life of me, explain to us all why in this day and age someone felt that we had to get our long standing motto "Ready Aye Ready" translated into latin ?? ?? ?? ?
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: SeaKingTacco on January 29, 2017, 16:22:54
It's not the old RCN badge nor is it the old Maritime Command one, it's a bit of both (though, does the use of gold anchor means we are going to have to go back to gold instead of silver for our cap badges?).

However, can someone, for the life of me, explain to us all why in this day and age someone felt that we had to get our long standing motto "Ready Aye Ready" translated into latin ?? ?? ?? ?

Because Latin is neither French nor English. Skirts the OL rules.
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: dapaterson on January 29, 2017, 16:36:24
I may once have asked if in a bilingual unit folks need to wear English titles on one shoulder and French on the other...
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: George Wallace on January 29, 2017, 17:10:44
I may once have asked if in a bilingual unit folks need to wear English titles on one shoulder and French on the other...

Did you include a specification of which shoulder which title was to be placed on?

"If you want service in English, Press 1"........English titles go on Right shoulder......."Si vous voulez un service en fran├žais, appuyez sur 2"..........French titles go on Right shoulder.......The Right shoulder being the shoulder indicating which is the first language spoken by the wearer, and the Left their secondary language. 





Here comes the Good Idea Faerie........I'm outta here.    [:D
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Dimsum on January 30, 2017, 00:48:58
It's not the old RCN badge nor is it the old Maritime Command one, it's a bit of both (though, does the use of gold anchor means we are going to have to go back to gold instead of silver for our cap badges?).

Why...are you stockpiling these?   >:D

(https://www.surplusandoutdoors.com/images/product/main/Q-C-NAVAL-GOLDWIRE-CAP.jpg)
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Hamish Seggie on January 30, 2017, 00:52:25
Are we going to have a morale patch for us soon to be retired folks?

"The older it get the better I was" sounds like a good start......

Of course every element would need its own patch....

Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Eye In The Sky on January 30, 2017, 08:48:34
It's not the old RCN badge nor is it the old Maritime Command one, it's a bit of both (though, does the use of gold anchor means we are going to have to go back to gold instead of silver for our cap badges?).


The RCN and RCAF can just trade badges then...apparently all we had enough $ for was ranks and DEU slip ons, none for trade badges, Wings, cap badges, etc.   ;D
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Journeyman on January 30, 2017, 09:10:06
http://reg.gg.ca/heraldry/pub-reg/project.asp?lang=e&ProjectID=2784&ShowAll=1
So (besides the Latin), the major change is deleting the seagull albatross;  I guess they're just acknowledging the reality of the Sea King replacement project.   >:D
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Dimsum on January 30, 2017, 10:40:42
So (besides the Latin), the major change is deleting the seagull albatross;  I guess they're just acknowledging the reality of the Sea King replacement project.   >:D

I'm not sure whether to  :rofl: or to  :facepalm:

Maybe both. 
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Pusser on January 30, 2017, 11:32:32
It's not the old RCN badge nor is it the old Maritime Command one, it's a bit of both (though, does the use of gold anchor means we are going to have to go back to gold instead of silver for our cap badges?).

However, can someone, for the life of me, explain to us all why in this day and age someone felt that we had to get our long standing motto "Ready Aye Ready" translated into latin ?? ?? ?? ?

I doubt there will be any move to replace silver anchors on cap badges with gold ones.  For one thing, in RCN 1.0, the  cap badges had silver anchors (British ones still do), yet the old (pre-1968) official RCN badge had a gold anchor - so no real change in that regard.

It is actually policy to render mottos in Latin if possible (i.e. barring an historical reason not to).  The Maritime Command (now RCN) motto of "Ready Aye Ready" was never really properly translated into French anyway.

Little bit of historical background.  As mentioned above, the RCN 1.0/RN/RAN/RNZN cap badge has and has always had a silver anchor, notwithstanding that the official organizational badges of those navies (for those that had them - the RN still doesn't) usually had a gold anchor.  When Canada adopted a new badge for the Naval Operations Branch around 1973(?) it had a gold anchor and was manufactured as an all metal "cookie-cutter" badge (cloth bullion versions were optional).  When we switched out of the green CF uniform in 1985, the folks in positions of authority insisted that we had to issue a cloth badge and that the anchor HAD to be silver and so it happened, notwithstanding the fact that the official description of the Naval Operations Branch badge has never been changed.  In other words, Nav Ops personnel have been out of dress for over 30 years now...  ;D
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: Baden Guy on January 30, 2017, 16:51:00
Every time I see this thread title in a quick glance I read " New RCN Commander."  :(
Title: Re: New RCN Command Badge?
Post by: dapaterson on January 30, 2017, 17:47:49
Every time I see this thread title in a quick glance I read " New RCN Commander."  :(

Nope.  Dan Ackroyd still has the helm.

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