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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #700 on: September 21, 2016, 12:18:42 »
Question: I did basic back in 2001, now MS hard sea trade, PLQ qualified in 2013, if I were to remuster to a purple trade (comm rsch) that has to do PLQ-L how would it work once I get back into the promotion zone?

Since I never did SQ, would I have to do SQ and then APLQ?

I'm fairly certain that Comms Rsrch doesn't do PLQ-A, or SQ.  That being said if you switched to a trade that needed PLQ-A and SQ, you'd be hard pressed to get a PLAR (from what I've seen lately)

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #701 on: September 22, 2016, 11:53:40 »
I'm fairly certain that Comms Rsrch doesn't do PLQ-A, or SQ.  That being said if you switched to a trade that needed PLQ-A and SQ, you'd be hard pressed to get a PLAR (from what I've seen lately)

Unfortunately they do SQ and PLQ-A, or whatever it's called this week. It seems to me they should do like the navy, train as required, no every purple trade will go to sea but they all have the potential to, yet we don't send them all on NETP.
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #702 on: September 22, 2016, 12:22:32 »
Unfortunately they do SQ and PLQ-A, or whatever it's called this week. It seems to me they should do like the navy, train as required, no every purple trade will go to sea but they all have the potential to, yet we don't send them all on NETP.

Are you certain?  Because there are a few Army trades that don't do PLQ-A but PLQ-common.  And there are still more purple trades that don't do it.  EGS techs for example do the common PLQ, and maybe SQ (unlikely).

Seems odd that comms rsrch would do it...

That being said, "train as needed" is foreign to the Army.  Otherwise we wouldn't have mechanics and gun-plumbers pepper-potting for miles, or supply technicians with jump wings...

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #703 on: September 22, 2016, 12:38:37 »
... or supply technicians with jump wings...

A Sup Tech specialty is rigger - the folks who check, prep and pack parachutes.  Kind of a good idea to give them some skin in the game...
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #704 on: September 22, 2016, 13:18:10 »
Question: I did basic back in 2001, now MS hard sea trade, PLQ qualified in 2013, if I were to remuster to a purple trade (comm rsch) that has to do PLQ-L how would it work once I get back into the promotion zone?

Since I never did SQ, would I have to do SQ and then APLQ?
Environmental variants of PLQ no longer exist.  Army Junior Leadership Course is now a course that is delivered after PLQ.  If it is required for promotion in your new occupation, you would have to do it for promotion.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #705 on: September 22, 2016, 13:45:36 »
Environmental variants of PLQ no longer exist.  Army Junior Leadership Course is now a course that is delivered after PLQ.  If it is required for promotion in your new occupation, you would have to do it for promotion.


Thanks for the solid answer, now next step, what is AJLC? a rebranded MOD 6 field phase?
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #706 on: September 22, 2016, 14:06:05 »

Thanks for the solid answer, now next step, what is AJLC? a rebranded field phase?
Yes.  See CANFORGEN 080/16.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #707 on: September 22, 2016, 14:42:06 »
Are you certain?  Because there are a few Army trades that don't do PLQ-A but PLQ-common.  And there are still more purple trades that don't do it.  EGS techs for example do the common PLQ, and maybe SQ (unlikely).

Seems odd that comms rsrch would do it...

That being said, "train as needed" is foreign to the Army.  Otherwise we wouldn't have mechanics and gun-plumbers pepper-potting for miles, or supply technicians with jump wings...
50% of the Comm Rsch trade is employed at 21EW which is an Army field unit. That's why you're doing SQ and AJLC.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #708 on: October 08, 2016, 11:42:18 »
50% of the Comm Rsch trade is employed at 21EW which is an Army field unit. That's why you're doing SQ and AJLC.

"They're doing it", I'm not comms rsrch, just wanted to clarify.

There can't be many of them.  21EW doesn't seem to have too many people on their side of the building.  Unless they're spread out all over the base?

On that note, why the hell was 21EW removed from JSR in the first place?  From a support perspective it seems like it would make a lot more sense to stand them up as a squadron within JSR instead of parading a squadron as a regiment...  I dunno...

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #709 on: October 08, 2016, 13:53:56 »
On that note, why the hell was 21EW removed from JSR in the first place?  From a support perspective it seems like it would make a lot more sense to stand them up as a squadron within JSR instead of parading a squadron as a regiment...  I dunno...
Seems like a great question for another thread:
http://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,124325.new.html#new

We can then keep this on topic.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #710 on: December 19, 2016, 10:08:07 »
Good Morning,

First time poster. I will just lay out the facts:
2009 - Promoted to MS
2010 - Completed CF PLQ
2011 - VOT to army trade
2013 - Completed SQ
2014 - Completed Winter Warfare Basic
2015 - Promoted to MCpl (MPRR says substantive)

Now almost 2 years after promotion, I am possibly having to go back to do the PLQ-A or L MOD4. Are there any references for my specific situation or am I just going to have to do it?

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #711 on: December 19, 2016, 10:39:53 »
You're in an Army trade that needs AJLC (new name for Mod 4 now). Your CAF PLQ isn't going to write it off, you have to do it. I'm not at work, but there's  a couple CANFORGENs in 2010/2011 that outline the requirement, as well as a recent one from 2015/2016 that outlines the changes in the system. I believe one of those documents has a sub para speaking to your situation, but I remember most of those sub paras were "member will complete AJLC".

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #712 on: December 19, 2016, 10:48:53 »
You're in an Army trade that needs AJLC (new name for Mod 4 now). Your CAF PLQ isn't going to write it off, you have to do it. I'm not at work, but there's  a couple CANFORGENs in 2010/2011 that outline the requirement, as well as a recent one from 2015/2016 that outlines the changes in the system. I believe one of those documents has a sub para speaking to your situation, but I remember most of those sub paras were "member will complete AJLC".

Thanks for the info. I believe the email I saw about this had those CANFORGEN's referenced. Just seems odd, that after this long they are coming after me.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #713 on: December 19, 2016, 11:27:09 »
The Army is way behind on getting pers qualified for PLQ. Unless you're in the Cbt Arms, waiting a year or 2 for PLQ is common.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #714 on: December 19, 2016, 11:33:23 »
The Army is way behind on getting pers qualified for PLQ. Unless you're in the Cbt Arms, waiting a year or 2 for PLQ is common.

They must be catching up; one of my support trades in an Army uniform (purple) is forecast appointed to MCpl APS 2017 and has been slated for PLQ beginning the 3rd week of Jan 2017.
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #715 on: December 19, 2016, 11:37:02 »
My Signallers are usually getting messages within a year. They recently moved all the Leadership courses run out of Pet to Meaford, and turned up the volume from reading the course calendar. Likely someone realized if they put a little manpower at the problem they can clear the backlog. There's no reason why we shouldn't have pers trained prior to promotion like you outlined.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #716 on: December 19, 2016, 11:37:27 »
AJLC would be  environmental specific trg.   I was Army before with CLC and SLC complete (PLQ and ILQ), but even though I am qualified to WO on the leadership stuff, I still am required to do the RCAF "Sgt Seminary (Intermediate Air Environmental Qual -  IAEQ) because it is AF specific.
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #717 on: February 25, 2017, 17:03:18 »
The Army is way behind on getting pers qualified for PLQ. Unless you're in the Cbt Arms, waiting a year or 2 for PLQ is common.
Since switching to new PLQ, JLC-A the billets seemed to have opened right up. I was promoted MCPL A/L May 2016, received CFTPO for DL beginning mid Jan 2017 and rest of mods including JLC-A 1 Feb - 31 Mar 2017 CFB Edmonton. I was deferred until this fall, I have no idea where I am going but was assured as soon as I am cleared I will be on next available course.
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #718 on: February 25, 2017, 17:10:09 »
My Signallers are usually getting messages within a year. They recently moved all the Leadership courses run out of Pet to Meaford, and turned up the volume from reading the course calendar. Likely someone realized if they put a little manpower at the problem they can clear the backlog. There's no reason why we shouldn't have pers trained prior to promotion like you outlined.

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #719 on: March 20, 2017, 08:52:07 »
Is the new harmonized PLQ up amd running?  I have some troops that are being told they're on it while others are being told they're on the "old one".  Is there really any change to training other than some trades not doing AJLC?

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #720 on: April 10, 2017, 15:14:36 »
I'm on the DL for the newest one now.

I can't make heads or tails of what's changed. From what I'm being told it's all the same now. Mod 1 DL. Mod 2 residential. Mod 3 field phase (small party taskings). Then the Army does mod 4 (AJLC), the Navy does JNELP, and then the Air Force does whatever they do 😋

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #721 on: April 10, 2017, 18:15:15 »
I'm on the DL for the newest one now.

I can't make heads or tails of what's changed. From what I'm being told it's all the same now. Mod 1 DL. Mod 2 residential. Mod 3 field phase (small party taskings). Then the Army does mod 4 (AJLC), the Navy does JNELP, and then the Air Force does whatever they do 😋

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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #722 on: April 10, 2017, 20:37:26 »
Arts and Crafts   ;D

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« Reply #723 on: April 10, 2017, 22:29:04 »
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Re: Primary Leadership Qualification Course (PLQ) Mega thread
« Reply #724 on: April 27, 2017, 03:39:28 »
How long is the current PLQ?