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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #300 on: May 22, 2009, 15:32:42 »
I'm special.

Extra 18000 and you can do what you want.
I hope it includes (which I sure it will) a pay jump for our 427 pilots/crew and clerks as well.Well deserved to all,never complain about people getting more money.

Hope your first purchase with your new found wealth is a big box of 'humble'. So much for quiet professionalism. No one bemoans a well earned benefit to those that deserve it, but there is no need to rub the noses of those less fortunate in it.

While there is no need to complain about extra money, it's immature and unprofessional to flaunt it.
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #301 on: May 22, 2009, 16:34:42 »
I must say, it's coming at  handy time administratively.  All I have to do is pull out my LDA form to back up my request for back-pay on this allowance.  Granted, it's not much monetarily, but the points are now already calculated.
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« Reply #302 on: May 22, 2009, 16:52:06 »
I must say, it's coming at  handy time administratively.  All I have to do is pull out my LDA form to back up my request for back-pay on this allowance.  Granted, it's not much monetarily, but the points are now already calculated.

Congratulations. I'm glad those receiving it are getting it. In the vast majority of the cases, it's well deserved.
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« Reply #303 on: May 22, 2009, 17:33:36 »
Congratulations. I'm glad those receiving it are getting it. In the vast majority of the cases, it's well deserved.

Awe...does that mean you think I'm special too?  You are so sweet!   ;)  (I'd prefer to add  heart emoticon here but am just too lazy to search for one!)
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #304 on: May 22, 2009, 18:27:26 »
Hope your first purchase with your new found wealth is a big box of 'humble'. So much for quiet professionalism. No one bemoans a well earned benefit to those that deserve it, but there is no need to rub the noses of those less fortunate in it.

While there is no need to complain about extra money, it's immature and unprofessional to flaunt it.

It's was a joke.I am getting LDA....that's about it.

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« Reply #305 on: May 22, 2009, 19:20:02 »
Awe...does that mean you think I'm special too?  You are so sweet!   ;)  (I'd prefer to add  heart emoticon here but am just too lazy to search for one!)

Your always special Strike ;)
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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #306 on: May 23, 2009, 10:18:51 »
Let's put it this way. We could consider the army like a world police. When overseas you get more money for danger toughness bla bla. When in garrison some trades are home pretty early while others work late. Does everybody deserve the same pay? CANSOF deserve that allowance NO DOUBT. They have it for the pager and the sacrifice of going left and right when ever they are needed. REG forces salary? CPL makes grossly anywhere from 52k to 56k I think. Is it enough? Of course I can say know we always want more. I think we should make as much as police officers. But now..is the army in arms way everyday?!?!? It's yes and no. Same debate as infanteer and a postal overseas with the same allowance?!?! It's a never ending story. Let's just love what we do regardless and be proud to be in the CF and Canadian!

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #307 on: May 27, 2009, 19:44:55 »
I am new to this website and army recruit (hopeful).

I am in complete agreement with tripflar3. I feel a soldier should make as much as a police officer, and maybe a little less. But once a mission in foreign, or possible unsafe territories comes about; I feel the danger pay should be increased quite a bit.

I am in no way complaining about the pay structure as it stands, but I definitely feel that our serving members overseas deserve a little more positive recognition, even if that recognition comes in a monetary form.

Enough said.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #308 on: May 27, 2009, 20:02:20 »
Seeing how you have never served a day in the CF as of yet do you really think you are qualified to say derserve less or more then such and such?
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« Reply #309 on: May 27, 2009, 20:35:51 »
No most definitely do not, but serves as an opinion. That being said, there was no mention of "deserving" less. They deserve every penny they get, the emphasis was on increasing the pay when a dangerous mission is called upon them.

I am a civilian, I have family that are police officers and I also have family members who have served. With this in mind, I made an opinion.

An opinion is not wrong regardless if it is misinformed or not, it is an opinion. I value our soldiers very much, and is also the reason why I am joining.

To sum it up; "I" feel that our troops overseas risking there lives should have a wage increase, even if that means I have to lose a small amount of money while at home.

Once again. Opinion.

I'm not trying to belittle anybody I was just making a statement, which I never figured would be ridiculed. "Give our troops more money" he says... and go figure I'm flamed for it.

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« Reply #310 on: May 27, 2009, 20:53:32 »

To sum it up; "I" feel that our troops overseas risking there lives should have a wage increase, even if that means I have to lose a small amount of money while at home.

I'm glad you are willing to give up some of your money. I'm not. I put my *** on the line in some pretty dangerous work when i fly from home base. I wouldnt mind keeping my pay. The SOF guys getting more, i'm all for that.



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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #311 on: May 27, 2009, 20:57:17 »
I'm glad you are willing to give up some of your money. I'm not. I put my *** on the line in some pretty dangerous work when i fly from home base. I wouldnt mind keeping my pay. The SOF guys getting more, i'm all for that.





I was using that as a basis which to start upon. But there is no reason why there should be other government jobs which aren't physically or mentally dangerous to be paid as much as they are, and our soldier elite are getting scrutinized for a pay increase.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #312 on: May 27, 2009, 21:08:26 »
No most definitely do not, but serves as an opinion. That being said, there was no mention of "deserving" less. They deserve every penny they get, the emphasis was on increasing the pay when a dangerous mission is called upon them.

I am a civilian, I have family that are police officers and I also have family members who have served. With this in mind, I made an opinion.

An opinion is not wrong regardless if it is misinformed or not, it is an opinion. I value our soldiers very much, and is also the reason why I am joining.

To sum it up; "I" feel that our troops overseas risking there lives should have a wage increase, even if that means I have to lose a small amount of money while at home.

Once again. Opinion.

I'm not trying to belittle anybody I was just making a statement, which I never figured would be ridiculed. "Give our troops more money" he says... and go figure I'm flamed for it.

I'm not giving up my few allowances just so I or someone else can get paid more for the (relatively, compared to an entire career) short time spent overseas.

The system we have now works just fine (IMHO, there needs to be a reality check with PLD rates but other then that...).

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #313 on: June 20, 2009, 16:42:57 »
i have done a few searches for specialist pay trying to find what occupations are considered for spec pay.  I have found the criteria for how they determine if spec pay wil be payed and a couple example occupations.

does anybody know of a comprehensive list of jobs that are included in the spec pay table either spec 1 or spec 2

I searched both Google.ca and came up with this page

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #314 on: June 20, 2009, 17:19:48 »
i have done a few searches for specialist pay trying to find what occupations are considered for spec pay.  I have found the criteria for how they determine if spec pay wil be payed and a couple example occupations.

does anybody know of a comprehensive list of jobs that are included in the spec pay table either spec 1 or spec 2

I searched both Google.ca and came up with this page

and the main fourm with no real answers

It's right there on your second link - it contains a link called "Occupation Trade Group Update - Active Occupations" - which leads to an Excel spreadsheet which lists every trade in the CF and their allocation to Std/Spec1/Spec2 pay fields.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #315 on: June 20, 2009, 18:59:29 »
It's also here by rank (not job) in the pay tables.  Keep in mind, to receive spec pay, some trades have a training requirement (e.g. QL5 or whatever), some have a rank requirement and some have both.
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« Reply #316 on: June 28, 2009, 12:47:16 »
Hello,

Just wondering if an Inf Officer can do trades or jobs that are entitled to spec pay?

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #317 on: June 28, 2009, 12:53:24 »
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« Reply #318 on: June 28, 2009, 13:05:38 »
Let's assume that the original poster doesn't mean "spec pay" in its restrictive sense as an official term.

Infantry officers are eligible for various allowances dependent on training and employment such as the Paratroop allowance and the Special Operations Allowance.

CBI Chapter 205 - Allowances for officers and non-commissioned members

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« Reply #319 on: June 28, 2009, 14:29:29 »
Thanks for that reply.

I was looking at the pay tables for NCM's and it seems that there are various pay incentive rates that if the NCM's was to receive that "spec pay" (please forgive if I am not clear on term, I'm still a civilian) they could actually get paid more then an officer could at least until the officer reaches captain rank.

Am I correct in thinking this? What recommendations or advice could you give me in regards to the earning maximum pay as a new officer in combat arms. What jobs training etc. should I be seeking as am hope to gain entry as an Inf Officer.

No, my motivation for joining is NOT money but I in mid 30's and have a family so I wish to be wise in my trade selection and career path.

Thank you kindly.

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« Reply #320 on: June 28, 2009, 14:35:17 »
Combat arms officers are paid on the scale for General Service Officers.  That scale can be supplemented by the allowances identified in the CBI linked above as eligibility through qualifications and experience dictates. There's no simple way to increase those pay levels.

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #321 on: March 16, 2011, 18:27:02 »
Hi there,
I searched the website for an answer, couldnt find it, so here it is:

Im currently in the Canadian Forces (Army) and my contract is up in a year. I am having second thoughts on resigning. I like the trade but not enough to stay in for 25 years. Im posted in Edmonton, which is fairly close to my home town of Vancouver. I would like to find a different CF trade that is either closer to home (Esquimalt), or a trade where I am actually working towards something more positive and useful (Sorry to all who think being an armoured crewman is a great trade).

Problem:
The recruiting website does not have spec pay jobs posted on their website, which is what is probably gonna drive my OT the most, and calling the recruitment centre as a CF member just gets me redirected to my VPSO (who I will talk to after my field ex).

I am hoping to get an answer from you guys about what trades have spec pay in any element, and if there is any Navy trades out there that you can only have in BC.

I just think theres more to the CF than sweeping floors every day.

Thanks for your time

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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #322 on: March 16, 2011, 18:38:51 »
This info is already on the site, but  I am unable to link to the thread right now.   Info is from 2005.

From a post by garb811:

Spec 1

Aerospace Control Operator - Radar Control
Aircraft Structures Technician
Airborne Electronic Sensor Operator
Aerospace Telecommunications & Information Systems Technician
Aerospace Telecommunications & Information Systems Technician
Aviation Systems Technician
Biomedical Electronics Technologist
Clearance Diver
Communications Research
Electrical Technician
Fire Control Systems Technician
Flight Engineer - Junior
Geomatics Technician
Hull Technician
Helicopter Shipborne Sensor Operations
Land Communications & Information Systems Technician
Marine Engineering Technician
Medical Technician - AEROMED
Medical Technician - OR
Medical Technician - PA
Medical Technician - Preventive Medicine
Medical Laboratory Technologist
Military Police
Maritime Patrol Sensor Operator
Medical Radiation technologist
Naval Combat Information Operator
Non Destructive Testing Technologist - Junior
Naval Electronics Technician (Acoustic)
Naval Electronics Technician (Communications)
Naval Electronics Technician      ( Manager)
Naval Electronics Technician (Tactical)
Naval Electronic Sensor Operator
Naval Weapons Technician
Tactical Acoustic Sensor Operator

Spec 2

Flight Engineer
Marine Engineering Artificer
Non Destructive Testing Technologist
Search and Rescue Technician


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Re: CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]
« Reply #324 on: March 16, 2011, 18:51:10 »
Yeah that list looks accurate. Keep in mind there's a few of those listed that are essentially sub-specialties of trades, in which you already have to be in that trade before you can go for the training that will eventually get you spec pay (and even that some trades only grant spec at particular ranks) Hopefully someone with more info can chime in, but that's just an FYI. Oh, and a few of the trades in there E.g. LCIS tech (and now even NET and NWT?) are undergoing transformations as a part of trade amalgamations. So who knows exactly how it will turn out...

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