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xx Posting of Articles & Other Gentle Reminders

July 31, 2020, 10:38:27 by BeyondTheNow
Good day all,

This is a quick thank you again for the efforts most of you have been making in keeping topics/threads civil and constructive over the last months. Times are still disruptive, and it’s easy for issues to bleed into each other through our keyboard at times. Keep it up. It makes for much easier reading by DS, and the user-base in general.

That said, there are a couple of points which need mentioning.

1) While encourages the posting of news articles and other sources of info which help support thread interaction, it’s important that a few personal remarks are accompanying the added information.

Going forward, we ask that all articles are prefaced somehow (with the exception of the “Editorial Cartoon” thread) Posting an article (partial or in full) with no frame of context, or focus outlining specifically which idea, quote, opinion, etc the poster is hoping to convey and/or debate does little to engage other users, and isn’t viewed as a valuable contribution in helping to move the discussion forward. The comments don’t need to be involved. They can be something as simple as a quick sentence outlining why one is choosing to include the article in the discussion.

2) There are a couple of threads that DS have purposely been more lenient with simply because of the conditions under which they were created. (ie “All Things Coronavirus...” is the easiest and most current to refer to.) It’s expected that small deviations from the main topic of discussion will occur from time to time, and DS will typically wait and see whether the comments circle back to the original content—Usually they do without intervention.

But please maintain the practice of beginning a new thread within the appropriate board (and/or searching for one related) for tackling ideas and/or questions that are clearly separate from the main purpose of an already existing thread. It makes moderating a bit easier, and also helps keep comments categorized appropriately for those searching for specific information.

Thank you in advance,
BTN Staff
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June 26, 2020, 15:02:34 by MarkOttawa
Can find nothing official with details of RCN, RCAF participation:

Submarines Arrive in Iceland for NATO Exercises

The first ships that will participate in NATO’s 2020 Dynamic Mongoose exercises have arrived in Iceland today, and the rest will arrive tomorrow. In addition to Iceland, six NATO member states will be participating in the exercises: the United States, the United Kingdom, France, Canada, Norway, and Germany. They are contributing five submarines, five warships, and five submarine search aircraft to the exercise.

The purpose of the Dynamic Mongoose operation is to “exercise submarine warfare and ASW (Anti-submarine Warfare) war-fighting for submarines, ASW surface units and maritime patrol aircrafts in order to conduct sea control or sea denial related naval tasks in preparation for future collective defence and crisis response operations,” according to NATO.

Iceland to Host Exercises Bi-Annually

NATO has held similar exercises annually in Norway since 2012, with the exception of 2017, when they were held in Iceland. It has now been decided that the exercises will be held alternately in Iceland and Norway. Iceland will provide facilities in the security area of Keflavík Airport and the Icelandic Coast Guard will participate in the exercises.

The exercises will take place between June 29 and July 10. The vessels’ arrival has been organised in consultation with Icelandic health authorities and appropriate disease prevention measures have been taken.

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xx Royal Australian Navy’s Entire Amphibious Force Operating Together For The First

June 23, 2020, 16:17:05 by LoboCanada
Meanwhile, our older brother is on to bigger things...

Royal Australian Navy’s Entire Amphibious Force Operating Together For The First Time

In a first, all three amphibious vessels of the Royal Australian Navy (RAN), HMAS Canberra, HMAS Choules and HMAS Adelaide, sailed together in formation.

This was the first time that the two LHDs and the single LSD of the RAN have operated together at sea. The event occured during a Force Integration Training off the east coast of Australia. The Australian Defence Force is conducting maritime task group training off Australia’s east coast and northern waters ahead of resuming major activities in the second half of the year.
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xx Time Sensitive Auction For Some Cool Looking Canadian Ship Models

June 13, 2020, 09:53:29 by Bruce Monkhouse

10 hours left in this auction....some very detailed actual Canadian vessels up for grabs.  [I love the helicopter on the Athabascan looking like its taking off]
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xx Float, Move, Fight

June 11, 2020, 17:38:43 by Underway
Not a bad primer from the MSEO of HMCS Toronto when the ship was on OP REASSURANCE a year ago.  I look forward to the "Fight" video.

Float, Move, Fight Part 1
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xx Naval Reserve restructuring

May 30, 2020, 19:40:11 by Oldgateboatdriver
Saw this post by FSTO in the Army Reserve Restructuring thread and thought we could expand a bit here on the naval aspect:

Well actually NAVRES pers now have opportunities to sail in all platforms (even subs if a reservist could get qualified) in the RCN.
The original concept of the MCDV's (reserve only ships) damn near destroyed the NRD's. They are still recovering from that decision and some units may never fully recover.

I'll start by disagreeing, a bit, with FSTO. What nearly destroyed the NRD's is not the original concept that the MCDV's were reserve only ship's, it was the Regular Force imposed concept that they all had to be reserve only and all had to be available operationally 24/7/365.

We begin by remembering that the 12 MCDV's replaced an equal number of 12 minor warships: 5 Gate Vessels, the FORT STEELE (class of one) and 6 PB's (the old Bay class minesweepers), of which four at a time were manned by the Reg Force as training vessels and two kept in reserve in rotation, with a fifth one activated for the summer from time to time using reservists.

Let's now look at the Naval Reserve manning before and after the entry in service of the MCDV. We see that the overall number of naval reservist hasn't changed and is more or less the same before and after.

This leads to the obvious question: If the NRD's could barely man six, sometimes seven minor warships during the high availability period of the summer (May to August, inclusively) and then manned only six on week ends only from mid-Sept to mid-Dec and then mid-Jan to mid-Apr, then what on earth made the Reg force believe that the same number of reservists, with the same work/school constraints could man twelve on a permanent basis?

To ask the question is to answer it: It could not be done.

That is why a working group of naval reserve MWV Command Qualified officers put out a service paper proposing that the MCDV's be split 50/50 between the Regular and Reserves. The way the split was to be done, however, was to have the positions onboard the MCDV alternated between Reg and Res during the "high" season of four months.  For instance, one ship would have a Reg CO with a Reserve XO, and a Reg Combat O, reserve NavO, etc. while the next ship would have the reverse. During the low season, the Reg force crews would be brought back together to man three MCDV's on each coast, or possibly four by using a smattering of reservists doing a few weeks stints here and there or doing an exceptional four months or eight months between school programs or for other reasons. The last two MCDV's on each cost would then be used to do NRD's week end training like the old gate vessels did before.

As part of that plan, there was to be an exceptional surge of two years of full manning by NRD personnel at the beginning of the MCDV era, with personnel doing a 6 month to one year tour, the whole in order to build a NRD knowledge base.

Problem is we never got out of that original period, and the result of the ongoing full time manning by reserve was the development of permanent reserve personnel (really, cheap reg force that could not be used anywhere else since they were on reserve contract at a specific MCDV billet) to the exclusion of the NRD personnel who could barely get access.

In my view, it could have been possible to go back to the original proposal of the paper at any time (could still today) but it was never done.

For reason I will develop later, I don't believe the current "reserve on any platform" system is going to help the NRD's either.

Ball is in your camps, gentlemen and Gentlewomen. 
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