Pipelines

[brihard]

A well deserved poke in the eye for the Trudidiots

Supreme Court rules against federal environmental impact assessment law​

Canada's top court has ruled the federal Impact Assessment Act (IAA), also known as Bill C-69, is on balance unconstitutional.

On Friday, five out of seven judges ruled the environmental scheme as too broad in its assessment of environmental impacts.

"Environmental protection remains one of today's most pressing challenges," said Chief Justice Richard Wagner. "To meet this challenge, Parliament has the power to enact a scheme of environmental assessment. Parliament also has the duty however, to act within the enduring division of powers framework laid out in the Constitution."

The bill, enacted by Parliament in 2019, provides a process for assessing the environmental impacts of designated energy projects. It also allows for more public consultation and participation in the assessment of any future energy projects.

The legislation's critics have called it the "No More Pipelines" bill. The province of Alberta sent it to the Alberta Court of Appeal, which ruled the legislation unconstitutional in 2022. Ottawa appealed the decision to the Supreme Court and arguments were heard last spring. Nine out of the 10 provinces oppose the scheme.

Supreme Court rules against federal environmental impact assessment law

Canada's top court has ruled the federal Impact Assessment Act, also known as Bill C-69, is on balance unconstitutional.

www.ctvnews.ca

there will be no change regardless of the ruling. The Feds have already stated that they will re-write the bill to accomplish the same end goal so there will still be no more pipelines

Yes, good to see the SCC reaffirming the constitutional division of powers. But… why are you posting this in the pipelines thread? As interprovincial works, pipelines fall under federal head of power to regulate. This court decisions doesn’t actually impact on environmental regulation pertaining to pipelines. Danielle Smith herself has shied away preprint Kenney’s farcical ‘no more pipelines bill’ rhetoric.

 

[Good2Golf]

I can see an early rewrite for the EA Act, Fisheries Act and Navigable Waters Act come a CPC win. As much as each side bitches about the other, they keep some of the stuff that the other did. One thing Harper did was to give the Federal Environmental Agency real teeth with legally enforceable provisions and and fulltime Inspection and Investigation arm. Never met any eco type willing to give credit for that move. Despite bitching heavily about it, the Libs did not remove the "Scheduled Waters" component of the Navigable Waters Act (CNWA) just expanded it a bit.

It’s their thing. It was also one of Chrétien’s promises in 93 to get rid of Mulroney’s GST, yet her we’re are as well. LPC is quite skilled at adding a very effective demonizing flair to other’s policies actions to gain votes, yet keep things as they are because it suits them immediately after the election.

 

[Kirkhill]

It’s their thing. It was also one of Chrétien’s promises in 93 to get rid of Mulroney’s GST, yet her we’re are as well. LPC is quite skilled at adding a very effective demonizing flair to other’s policies actions to gain votes, yet keep things as they are because it suits them immediately after the election.

NAFTA?

The opposition Liberal Party vociferously opposed the agreement, with Liberal leader John Turner saying that he would "tear it up" if he became prime minister, and the New Democratic Party under leader Ed Broadbent also strongly opposed the agreement.

Canada-US Free Trade Agreement.

Which was a bit of a turn-around for them

In the fall of 1910, Wilfrid Laurier and President William Howard Taft of the United States negotiated a reciprocity agreement. Laurier was probably one of the first Prime Ministers to talk about free trade with our neighbours to the south. He believed that opening up trade would allow manufacturers and farmers to increase their production and sell their commodities to our neighbours.

We wish to open our markets to you on the condition that you open yours to us. It would be to our mutual advantage. We produce more of certain things than we can consume; on the other hand, our production is below capacity, such that we have commodities to export and import. (1910). [translation]

Reciprocity Agreement | Tenacity in the Face of Adversity | Leader of the Liberal Party of Canada - Wilfrid Laurier: Father of modern Canada

in 1910, Laurier negotiated an economic reciprocity treaty with President Taft of the United States. This heavily criticized agreement would cost him the next election.

wilfridlaurier175.ca

 

[Colin Parkinson]

This should prove to be interesting

 

[daftandbarmy]

This should prove to be interesting

 

[Colin Parkinson]

@Kirkhill I think you asked where LNGCanada and Coastalgaslink where at. This article gives some promising dates.

Pipeline Installation a Positive Sign for Canadian LNG Exports

TC Energy Corp. has welded the last stretch of the Coastal GasLink pipeline into place, adding to signs that a huge facility to export liquefied natural gas off Canada’s west coast is on track to start up on time, or even early.

gcaptain.com

 

[Kirkhill]

Apparently the Euros are still building pipelines.

Build them "hydrogen-tight" for the future and use them for natural gas in the present.

Germany and Italy join forces to build pipeline across Alps

Project aimed at shoring up energy supply to reduce dependence on Russian gas

www.telegraph.co.uk

Italy and Germany are to build a gas and hydrogen pipeline across the Alps in a bid to shore up energy supplies in the wake of the war in Ukraine, the two countries’ leaders announced on Wednesday.

Olaf Scholz, the German chancellor, said the project would “strengthen long-term supply, security and transformation” during a bilateral meeting in Berlin with Giorgia Meloni, the Italian prime minister.

Since Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, Germany has been anxious to reduce its dependence on Russian gas.

The proposed pipeline will bring supplies from North Africa, up through Italy, across Austria and into southern Germany.

It would enable the import of 10 million tons of hydrogen by 2030, according to German media reports.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Stupid Europeans.

Don’t they know that there is no business case for Natural Gas?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Stupid Europeans.

Don’t they know that there is no business case for Natural Gas?

sigh....

 

[Cloud Cover]

I don't understand the whole hydrogen thing? Why bother when we have natural gas literally everywhere now?

 

[daftandbarmy]

I don't understand the whole hydrogen thing? Why bother when we have natural gas literally everywhere now?

Anti-Carbon climate extremism in its legitimate political form.

Coincidentally, you need alot of electricity to generate hydrogen power so more earth dams will likely be required, ironically. But that OK though because 'no oil'.

Regardless, it will take decades, and $ billions, to build a hydrogen powered economy as that technology is even further behind than LNG, which has been around since the 1940s.

 

[Cloud Cover]

If only there was a way we could capture and reuse the heat from all of the frigging totally not arson forest fires of the past few years.

 

[Good2Golf]

Stupid Europeans.

Don’t they know that there is no business case for Natural Gas?

Until 2025 in Canada…

I don't understand the whole hydrogen thing? Why bother when we have natural gas literally everywhere now?

Exhaust is literally just water.

Anti-Carbon climate extremism in its legitimate political form.

Coincidentally, you need alot of electricity to generate hydrogen power so more earth dams will likely be required, ironically. But that OK though because 'no oil'.

No problem, we CANDU it!

Regardless, it will take decades, and $ billions, to build a hydrogen powered economy as that technology is even further behind than LNG, which has been around since the 1940s.

Energy is trillions and those decades will pass as fast as the Y2K bug is from today…

 

[Kirkhill]

Exhaust is literally just water.

Ever slid through a traffic light in January? Or sat there spinning your wheels as you try to get traction?

I love exhaust water -

 

[Good2Golf]

Ever slid through a traffic light in January? Or sat there spinning your wheels as you try to get traction?

I love exhaust water -

Is that a straw man for why we shouldn’t progress to a hydrogen economy?

 

[Kirkhill]

Is that a straw man for why we shouldn’t progress to a hydrogen economy?

Too much credit mate. Just contemplating another winter.

It never ceases to amaze me that I am safer on the open highways than within city limits. Inside the city I am subjected to rough roads, ice, snowdrifts, icy fog from exhausts and idiots. As soon as I clear the last traffic light the road is clear.

I have no problem with the hydrogen economy....if it is cost effective.

 

[Brad Sallows]

All of the paths away from fossil fuels (except the Malthusian one) require improvements in technology and abundant and inexpensive energy just to get the infrastructure rolling. This fact eludes many of the people who think they want a path away from fossil fuels and think they don't want to be the ones who have to live in poverty and eventually expire in order to make it so.

 

[daftandbarmy]

All of the paths away from fossil fuels (except the Malthusian one) require improvements in technology and abundant and inexpensive energy just to get the infrastructure rolling. This fact eludes many of the people who think they want a path away from fossil fuels and think they don't want to be the ones who have to live in poverty and eventually expire in order to make it so.

It's all about the costs, of course, unless you happen to be a national leader with a trust fund kid's grasp of the basic principles of financial management ...

Global Hydrogen Review 2021

"A key barrier for low-carbon hydrogen is the cost gap with hydrogen from unabated fossil fuels. At present, producing hydrogen from fossil fuels is the cheapest option in most parts of the world. Depending on regional gas prices, the levelised cost of hydrogen production from natural gas ranges from USD 0.5 to USD 1.7 per kilogramme (kg). Using CCUS technologies to reduce the CO2 emissions from hydrogen production increases the levelised cost of production to around USD 1 to USD 2 per kg. Using renewable electricity to produce hydrogen costs USD 3 to USD 8 per kg."

Executive summary – Global Hydrogen Review 2021 – Analysis - IEA

Global Hydrogen Review 2021 - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

 

[Good2Golf]

It's all about the costs, of course, unless you happen to be a national leader with a trust fund kid's grasp of the basic principles of financial management ...

Global Hydrogen Review 2021

"A key barrier for low-carbon hydrogen is the cost gap with hydrogen from unabated fossil fuels. At present, producing hydrogen from fossil fuels is the cheapest option in most parts of the world. Depending on regional gas prices, the levelised cost of hydrogen production from natural gas ranges from USD 0.5 to USD 1.7 per kilogramme (kg). Using CCUS technologies to reduce the CO2 emissions from hydrogen production increases the levelised cost of production to around USD 1 to USD 2 per kg. Using renewable electricity to produce hydrogen costs USD 3 to USD 8 per kg."

Executive summary – Global Hydrogen Review 2021 – Analysis - IEA

Global Hydrogen Review 2021 - Analysis and key findings. A report by the International Energy Agency.

www.iea.org

…and yet here we are…

 

[Kirkhill]

And most of the most reliable renewables, hydro, are grandfathered installations built before there was an environmental review process.

Drowned fields, forests and towns as well as disrupted fish runs....

TANSTAAFL.