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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1350 on: June 14, 2018, 15:50:08 »
Yeah, I will re-take the CFAT. I am very confident I will get a much better score than I did previously.

As for the "automatic application to RMC", based on my conversation with the RMC registrar's office, you must also apply separately to RMC. Basically the BPSO's paperwork needs to be updated, as the lady from the registrar's office mentioned the UTPNCM selection office stopped contacting them several years ago. They have no contact/correspondence with each other, and therefore UTPNCM applicant academic files do not get evaluated for acceptance into RMC. She said people keep being posted to RMC that need to do emergency/last minute applications to programs.

To be fair, the UTPNCM and other selection sections are very understaffed, overworked etc.. this is a pretty minor problem considering.

That's interesting. Understaffed seems to be an understatement for those poor folks. They should update the application package if the auto-application is no longer applicable that way people know they need to apply up front.

Anyway, good luck with the CFAT re-write. Definitely worth it.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1351 on: June 14, 2018, 19:47:08 »
Did someone receive a definite NO for UTPNCM yet?

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1352 on: June 14, 2018, 20:39:05 »
Did someone receive a definite NO for UTPNCM yet?

I think they don’t send out the negatives until they’ve received an acceptance from everyone with initial offers. My SCP application has a 21-day time limit so I’m guessing it will be awhile before the non-selection messages go out.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1353 on: June 15, 2018, 11:17:39 »
Received mine end of July last year
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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1354 on: June 15, 2018, 12:21:24 »
Using my U of M PLAR as a reference I'm trying to see if Carleton will let me PLAR the same things (POET / PLQ / etc.).

My issue: Carleton is asking for Detailed Course Descriptions in addition to course reports/certificates.

Does anybody happen to know where I could find Detailed Course Descriptions for:
2002 POET?
2010 Army PLQ?
2015 RCEME DP3?

Or have suggestion on where to look/who to talk to?
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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1355 on: June 15, 2018, 12:50:21 »
For POET i would speak to the CFSCE staff to see if they kept those records. I think a memo from the head of admin at CFSCE stipulating the course content would suffice. As for results, if you do not have the courae reports you may ask for archived course reports.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1356 on: June 18, 2018, 10:13:26 »
After poking around on the DMCPG page, I came across a .ppt which gives the numbers for last year's selections as follows:

      Program    Selected   Applicants
1.   CFR              134           188
2.   SCP               54             91
3.   UTPNCM        69            155
4.   IBDP               9             14
5.   PGT               55            134
6.   MLTP              3              30
7.   MMTP             5              15
8.   MPTP             1               2
9.   MDTP             1               4
10. SEELM            5               5

Of course these numbers change year to year, but I hope that helps give everyone here a rough idea of the odds of being accepted to each program.
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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1357 on: June 19, 2018, 10:45:24 »
What is on a non-selection message? Will it give me details such as applicants / selected and//or areas for improvement? Or are all these details given from BPSO?

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1358 on: June 19, 2018, 11:03:40 »
No you will just have a message saying that you were not taken, they don't say anything else. BPSO might give you some hint as how to improve.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1359 on: June 19, 2018, 11:53:04 »
your CoC will be given a copy of your scoring sheet (how you scored for CFAT, interview, etc - the document that was sent to the board). 

Your CoC is not supposed to show this document to you, but you could still ask (like under the table)... if your CoC won't let you peek I think you can request this document through "access to information" (or whatever it's called).

Asking your PSO for feedback / tips is also a good course of action

edited for clarity and grammar
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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1360 on: June 20, 2018, 18:57:16 »
Any update on posting messages? Rumour says maybe July?

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1361 on: June 20, 2018, 21:30:22 »
Still waiting for mine.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1362 on: June 22, 2018, 06:20:35 »
Clerks said not to wait for anything before June 26, they are changing something in Guardian CF wide and they don't have access to peoplesoft. Don't know all the details I'm not a clerk.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1363 on: June 22, 2018, 07:26:02 »
There was an email sent out yesterday explaining the transition, supposed to take about a week for guardian to fully take over. After that all pers info is supposed to be generated by guardian, including pay and career related stuff.
That's the way I understood it at least.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1364 on: June 22, 2018, 10:04:48 »
Any update on posting messages? Rumour says maybe July?

Got mine on the 18th

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1365 on: June 22, 2018, 13:57:16 »
Got mine on the 18th

What school? RMC?

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1366 on: June 22, 2018, 14:14:47 »
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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1367 on: June 29, 2018, 22:04:42 »
Anyone else get their UTPNCM posting message yet? Still waiting out west!

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1368 on: June 30, 2018, 10:57:20 »
Still waiting - Trenton

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1369 on: July 06, 2018, 11:31:18 »
Got it. Cant register on BGRS before another 5 days thought.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1370 on: July 06, 2018, 13:36:37 »
Got it. Cant register on BGRS before another 5 days thought.

Congrats!

What's BGRS? An RMC thing or are you going civvy as well?

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1371 on: July 06, 2018, 13:53:38 »
BGRS is the people that make your move and HHT. I'm going to a civy school in Quebec  (UQTR)

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1372 on: July 07, 2018, 20:11:06 »
Ah, is that Brookfield or whatever?

Last time I got moved it was still Royal LePage so I'm not super familiar

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1373 on: July 07, 2018, 20:14:52 »
Yep, Brookfield Global Relocation Services.

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Re: University Training Plan NCM (UTPNCM)-NCM to Officer [MERGED]
« Reply #1374 on: July 09, 2018, 21:29:21 »
Hi guys. I have a good one for you today.
I applied for UTPNCM to serve as a PSO. Did 14 university courses on my own time since 2015 (give or take 50% of my Bachelor's degree in psychology). Good Cfat, lots of extra duties, the branch accepted my waiver to continue my degree in my region and so on. My BPSO told me that I did my homework and I would make a good candidate for UTPNCM this year. But as long as you don't have a message in your hands you never know. So time passes by and I become more and more anxious about my answer, coming to a point that a definite NO would be better than the wait. As May and June went by, and seeing many of you guys accepted, I told myself ''ok, not this year'' and I'm fine with it. Today, we received the non-selection message for UTPNCM and my name is not on it!!! So the chief clerk from my unit called Ottawa for a sitrep and they never got my file, which was sent by PSO office on January 31st. This happened to another of my co-workers in April so I even double checked with them back then, to make sure this was not happening to me as well. So my file was sent again today and we will see from there.