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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #150 on: July 11, 2016, 22:19:03 »
I believe that Mr. SAmfiuru specialises in Ontario labour law.  The PS falls under a a different and federal law.

Still makes you wonder though.  Is there more to this than we know?
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #151 on: July 11, 2016, 22:30:20 »
Still makes you wonder though.  Is there more to this than we know?

If we were entitled to more severance you can bet that the unions would have squeezed everything we we were entitled to.
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #152 on: August 22, 2016, 18:16:01 »
Has anyone heard any updates re: the cost of living adjustment?  I've heard rumors that the numbers have been settled and we'll see it in September, but there hasn't been any official CANFORGENs out yet....

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #153 on: August 22, 2016, 18:32:01 »
No.  Numbers are not settled.  Once something is ready to be announced, it will be.

You may want to read back on this thread; lots of discussion as to why it will be a while before anything comes out.
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #154 on: August 22, 2016, 18:35:41 »
I have been following this thread for a while and am well aware of the reasons for the wait.  I've heard that PSAC also has their numbers settled, which is why I inquired if anyone was in the know. 

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #155 on: August 22, 2016, 18:59:11 »
WOW!  Three posts in twenty minutes and all are about "YOUR money".   [:(
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #156 on: August 22, 2016, 19:00:07 »
Latest on PSAC bargaining is at: http://psacunion.ca/bargaining

The settlement with the CRA earlier this month goes back to 2012, and includes the Severance Pay provisions.  So it's not a bellwether for the next round of CAF increases.
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #157 on: August 22, 2016, 19:09:32 »
@dapaterson - roger that.  I hadn't seen those details or realize it wouldn't have an effect on CAF increase.  Thanks for the heads up. 

@George Wallace - haha, yes, I was waiting for someone to call me out on that.  I value the input and open discussion on here, so I just seen it as another venue for information.  Pay isn't the only concern on my mind, I swear! ;)

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #158 on: August 22, 2016, 19:17:25 »
fear

The one thing you can rest assured of; once the pay settlements are announced, they will be posted here just a fraction slower than the "wives network" can spread the word.   [:D
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #159 on: August 22, 2016, 19:20:27 »
Haha, fair enough!

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #160 on: August 24, 2016, 01:10:51 »
Good news folks, PSAC has closed the CRA file 1.5-2% increase and it expires on October 31

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #161 on: August 24, 2016, 01:14:56 »
Good news folks, PSAC has closed the CRA file 1.5-2% increase and it expires on October 31

Read reply #156.

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« Reply #162 on: August 24, 2016, 12:26:37 »
So is that a yes or No? It get's a bit confusing to read because I'm french.

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #163 on: August 24, 2016, 12:48:24 »
its a no.  We need TB not CRA to settle.
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #164 on: August 24, 2016, 12:57:55 »
So is that a yes or No? It get's a bit confusing to read because I'm french.

Don't feel bad, I'm English and it's difficult to follow.  I don't speak pay clerk or admin clerk for that matter.   :nod:
I'm just like the CAF, I seem to have retention issues.

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« Reply #165 on: August 24, 2016, 14:38:19 »
Don't feel bad, I'm English and it's difficult to follow.  I don't speak pay clerk or admin clerk for that matter.   :nod:

It's not them.  Like CountDC, said, we just need Scott Brison, John McCallum, Bill Morneau, Jane Philpott, Jean-Yves Duclos and Catherine McKenna say "yes" to whatever it is that DND asks for...easy peasy! :not-again:

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #166 on: August 24, 2016, 14:44:51 »
It's not them.  Like CountDC, said, we just need Scott Brison, John McCallum, Bill Morneau, Jane Philpott, Jean-Yves Duclos and Catherine McKenna say "yes" to whatever it is that DND asks for...easy peasy! :not-again:

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Shows how little you know [:D We just need Gerry Butts permission for Scott Brison, John McCallum, Bill Morneau, Jane Philpott, Jean-Yves Duclos and Catherine McKenna say "yes" to whatever it is that DND asks for [:'(
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #167 on: August 24, 2016, 15:01:26 »
Shows how little you know [:D We just need Gerry Butts permission for Scott Brison, John McCallum, Bill Morneau, Jane Philpott, Jean-Yves Duclos and Catherine McKenna say "yes" to whatever it is that DND asks for [:'(

...then you've got to add Katie Telford...  :nod:

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #168 on: August 24, 2016, 15:03:15 »
So is that a yes or No? It get's a bit confusing to read because I'm french.

L'Agence du Revenue a conclut une attente avec le Trésorier, sur leur entente collective, avec les augmentations économiques suivantes :

1er novembre 2012 – 1,5%
1er novembre 2013 – 1.5%
1er novembre 2014 – 0.75%
1er novembre 2015 – 0.75%

À noter que ces chiffres remontent à une convention collective qui est venue à échéance en 2012 - cela fait quatre ans que l'Agence négocie (ou ne négocie pas, ça dépend du point de vue). Cette convention collective vient à expiration le 31 octobre 2016, donc ce sera un retour à la table des négociations pour l'Agence dans l'année qui vient.

Rough English summary of the above. The collective bargaining agreement (CBA) agreed upon by the Union of Taxation Employees (UTE) and TBS contains the basic economic increases noted above (1.5, 1.5, 0.75, 0.75), which covers the four years (2012-16) during which UTE has been in negotiations with TBS. The CBA expires 31 OCT 16, so it's back to the drawing table for UTE in the near future.

The big group which may have the greatest effect on CAF pay rates is the PA/SV/TC, the three largest bargaining groups represented by PSAC, which have been without a CBA since 2014. Those three gps total more than 100,000 employees, while UTE has roughly 25,000 employees.

A neat note, UTE has reserved the right to renegotiate the economic increases for 2014 and 2015. I gather they're keeping an eye on what economic increases the other bargaining groups may get.

The "file" is not closed. The agreement is tentative, pending ratification by the UTE membership.

(I had the above info provided by my union rep, through links to the info accessible on the PSAC Web site.)
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #169 on: August 24, 2016, 16:03:43 »
It's not them.  Like CountDC, said, we just need Scott Brison, John McCallum, Bill Morneau, Jane Philpott, Jean-Yves Duclos and Catherine McKenna say "yes" to whatever it is that DND asks for...easy peasy! :not-again:

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No, I get it that it's not their decision. I mean I don't speak the language they're explaining crap in...
I'm just like the CAF, I seem to have retention issues.

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #170 on: September 05, 2016, 16:52:59 »
Hi, I've read through most of this post and Im still a little confused. So the CAF usually gets a raise every year? Ive been in since June of last year, so would I get any back pay if there is a raise? Thanks to anyone who could help.

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #171 on: September 05, 2016, 17:28:45 »
When they adjust our pay with a raise here and there, they are usually retroactive to such and such a date as these things take time to appear.  If you are due any back pay as a result of these raises, it will be added to your regular pay when it's processed.  Don't worry, you won't lose out of anything.
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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #172 on: September 05, 2016, 19:09:09 »
With these numbers, we don't even break even (4.57% vs 6.08%) when compared to inflation....  I hope there's more on the benefit side of things...

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Re: Pay Raise (2014 - 2016) & Back Pay
« Reply #173 on: September 05, 2016, 19:13:41 »
With these numbers, we don't even break even (4.57% vs 6.08%) when compared to inflation....  I hope there's more on the benefit side of things...

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« Reply #174 on: September 05, 2016, 19:41:52 »
Throughout the tenure of the past government, wage settlements were generally less than inflation, and contributions for pension plans increased significantly. 

So, for example, in 2006, members contributed 4.6% on earnings to YMPE while today it's at 9.05%; earnings above YMPE have gone from 8.1% to 11.04%.
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