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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #425 on: June 16, 2017, 10:41:57 »
You can't just run test cases and expect to get a consistent one number % that will be accurate.

You're going to need to create an excel sheet and track the pay increases by year (or if you've been promoted during that time, do it by month) and then get the cumulative increases.

When it worked it out it was nearly $7500 gross.

Once taxes are gone it's about $5k, which is a nice bonus.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #426 on: June 16, 2017, 10:48:12 »
This is what I did in excel to get it (accounts for a July 2016 promotion):

   6033      1.0125      
   5638      1.015      
               
               
Apr14-Apr15   12   =D4*D7                       =E7*F3           =G7-E7
Apr15-Apr16   12   =D4*D8                       =G7*F3           =G8-E8
Apr16-Jul16   3   =D4*D9   =D3*F3*F3*F3    =F9*D9           =G9-E9
Jul16-Mar17   9   =D3*D10                       =F9*F3*D10   =G10-E10
               =D3*12*0.012
               =SUM(H7:H11)
               =H12*0.33
               =H12-H13

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #427 on: June 16, 2017, 10:55:28 »
This is what I did in excel to get it (accounts for a July 2016 promotion):

   6033      1.0125      
   5638      1.015      
               
               
Apr14-Apr15   12   =D4*D7                       =E7*F3           =G7-E7
Apr15-Apr16   12   =D4*D8                       =G7*F3           =G8-E8
Apr16-Jul16   3   =D4*D9   =D3*F3*F3*F3    =F9*D9           =G9-E9
Jul16-Mar17   9   =D3*D10                       =F9*F3*D10   =G10-E10
               =D3*12*0.012
               =SUM(H7:H11)
               =H12*0.33
               =H12-H13


Don't see any dollar values only the cell/formula info.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #428 on: June 16, 2017, 12:42:24 »
Don't see any dollar values only the cell/formula info.

I set it to show formula as I thought that may be more useful for people if they wanted to create their own spreadsheets. The actual dollar value is only really applicable to me or someone that got the same promotions at the same time.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #429 on: June 19, 2017, 12:13:30 »
A simple question, this retro pay will be with or without the taxes, I mean will they take it this summer or in april on our T4
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #430 on: June 19, 2017, 12:17:13 »
A simple question, this retro pay will be with or without the taxes, I mean will they take it this summer or in april on our T4

Taxes will be deducted from your pay check. They will probably be somewhat over-deducted, that's what I've seen in the past.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #431 on: June 19, 2017, 20:24:40 »
Is there anyone working in/with the pay system that can comment on if we'll receive the lump sum retro on the 30th, or if it will be later etc?

Someone today was saying they heard end of July, I thought we'd been told end of June, however I know these things can get delayed.



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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #432 on: June 20, 2017, 09:45:59 »
Last available info is holding to the 30 June date.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #433 on: June 20, 2017, 12:15:53 »
Depends - Reg F is standing on 30 Jun but according to the RPPO plus box message we get the reserves will start to receive lump sum payments starting end Jun 2017.  This leaves the door open for later payments.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #434 on: June 22, 2017, 01:10:00 »
▼ E01217 - 02 Jun - Production Calendar

Date: 02 Jun 17

Subject: Production Calendar

Treasury Board has approved the General Pay Increase (GPI) for members of the CAF retroactive to 1 Apr 2014.  DMPAP will have the retro pay calculated and applied to all CAF members pay in time to appear on the members’ end June pay.  During the implementation of the GPI, it will be necessary to take CCPS and RPSR offline during business hours.

CCPS will be offline at 2100 on Thurs, 8 June 2017 to 0700 Tues, 13 Jun 2017. During this time, pay clerks will not have access to CCPS until the system resumes normal processing on 13 June 2017.


However, despite the above message CCPS was active during that time, and is down now.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #435 on: June 22, 2017, 12:26:36 »
Anyone have an idea of the taxation rate of the backpay portion ? I noticed that the spreadsheet showed a 38% tax rate which means we would get approx. 62% of that.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #436 on: June 22, 2017, 15:11:37 »
Taxes will be deducted from your pay check. They will probably be somewhat over-deducted, that's what I've seen in the past.

Of course, always is. Never the other way around. Also, most are in higher tax brackets than they were in 2014,2015,2016, so more taxes withheld than if we would've got the increase regularly. And no "interest" for the delay, since money now is less than up to 3 years ago.

Oh well, at least we got an increase. Hopefully they will be yearly from now, and it's going to be a while until it gets stuck again
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #437 on: June 22, 2017, 17:35:40 »
I just checked my upcoming pay statement in EMAA and the backpay is there along with the new pay rate... ;D
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #438 on: June 22, 2017, 18:02:39 »
There seems to be some shenanigans going on with ACISS:CST's back pay and rate increase.
Will this ride ever end?

I have not had access to DWAN in a while so I have not seen the message, just comments about it. is there anyone in the know that can shed some more light on this for me?

EDIT: Nevermind, got my answer.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #439 on: June 22, 2017, 20:12:36 »
Of course, always is. Never the other way around. Also, most are in higher tax brackets than they were in 2014,2015,2016, so more taxes withheld than if we would've got the increase regularly. And no "interest" for the delay, since money now is less than up to 3 years ago.

Oh well, at least we got an increase. Hopefully they will be yearly from now, and it's going to be a while until it gets stuck again

You'll get the difference on taxes during next tax season...

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #440 on: June 23, 2017, 18:30:18 »
Will the retroactive pay rates factor into pension calculations, as far as best five years are concerned?

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #441 on: June 23, 2017, 18:32:53 »
Is there anyone working in/with the pay system that can comment on if we'll receive the lump sum retro on the 30th, or if it will be later etc?

Someone today was saying they heard end of July, I thought we'd been told end of June, however I know these things can get delayed.

EMAA pay statements are up for end of June. Mine reflected end of June payment.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #442 on: June 23, 2017, 18:40:31 »
Will the retroactive pay rates factor into pension calculations, as far as best five years are concerned?
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #443 on: June 23, 2017, 23:26:05 »
Ah! Missed it the first time

I demand damages! Your excel was off by 13 cents!!! You triggered me rawr rawr rawr (or maybe the govnt is cheating us of pennies to build up their coffers /tinfoil hat)

I'm not even going to bother to manually check the accuracy thanks to your excel sheet. Cheers for saving me up to an hour with it. Pretty much spot on.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #444 on: June 24, 2017, 10:10:06 »
I just received my RPSR Pay Statement through EMAA.  The amount showing was shockingly lower than expected for a retro statement covering 3+ years.  Unfortunately the statement has a disclaimer which reads "Not all Pay Statement information can be displayed through EMAA due to the high number of transactions contained in the statement. Please contact your Pay Office for a copy of your entire Pay Statement." so I have no idea if this is it for my retro, if this is my regular Class A pay or if supplementary deposits will be forthcoming.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #445 on: June 24, 2017, 11:43:07 »
Did some quick math, my retro pay is $8085, with 42% taken off for tax, CFSA, CPP and EI leaving me with $4735. The plus side, is I now only have July's pay before CPP and EI are maxed out for the year.

If it looks like you lost close to half, that's where it went.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #446 on: June 25, 2017, 08:56:57 »
Did some quick math, my retro pay is $8085, with 42% taken off for tax, CFSA, CPP and EI leaving me with $4735. The plus side, is I now only have July's pay before CPP and EI are maxed out for the year.

If it looks like you lost close to half, that's where it went.

Well that explains why my back pay was 7400$ but only 3600 of it is actually going to make it into my new rifle account err I mean bank account.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #447 on: June 25, 2017, 09:51:26 »
I got quite a bit less and I think I was taxed at the highest bracket. As I understand it anything over a 10 grand pay run, you get taxed at the highest rate by the RPSR. I would imagine I will get more back in taxes this year.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #448 on: June 25, 2017, 10:05:00 »
I would rather be taxed more than not enough, after getting curb stomped at tax time from the sea pay back pay from last year.  This retro pay is going entirely to pay that tax bill.  I won't see a penny of it.  Even though they took an arm and most of a leg with the sea pay, the over $5K still wanting suggests they want both legs too.  I'm really hoping I don't get kicked in the balls again come next April..
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #449 on: June 25, 2017, 13:00:56 »
Did some quick math, my retro pay is $8085, with 42% taken off for tax, CFSA, CPP and EI leaving me with $4735. The plus side, is I now only have July's pay before CPP and EI are maxed out for the year.

If it looks like you lost close to half, that's where it went.

I noticed the same thing, they maxed out on tax, pension, EI and CPP.  And yes EI and CPP will max out early, and Revenue Canada is going to be giving me back more cash next March :-/  Not necessarily a bad thing.

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