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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #450 on: June 25, 2017, 13:38:57 »
What concerns me is that the gross amount on my EMAA pay statement is roughly 40% of what I was expecting.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #451 on: June 25, 2017, 14:28:32 »
What concerns me is that the gross amount on my EMAA pay statement is roughly 40% of what I was expecting.

I would definitely go to your clerks and have them look at that.  But the pay guide did go month by month for both pay and LDA etc.  So if you don't see months/years that you think you deserve, that would be the starting point.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #452 on: June 25, 2017, 15:00:23 »
What concerns me is that the gross amount on my EMAA pay statement is roughly 40% of what I was expecting.

My calculation was very close to reality.  As a Reservist, I used the following data:

31 Dec 14 gross pay minus 31 Mar 14 gross pay x 1.25%
31 Mar 15 gross pay x 1.25%
31 Dec 15 gross pay minus 31 Mar 15 gross pay x 2.5%
31 Mar 16 gross pay x 2.5%
31 Dec 16 gross pay minus 31 Mar 16 gross pay x 4.95%
31 Mar 17 gross pay x 4.95%
15 Jun 17 gross pay minus 31 Mar 17 gross pay x 6.2%

Does not account for compounding, but it's a good ballpark estimate.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #453 on: June 25, 2017, 22:03:42 »
I "retired" last summer and am looking at about 2.5 years of back pay.  I have since taken my transfer value and invested in my new employer's pension plan and invested leftovers in my LIRA.  I was curious if they would be deducting a pension portion from the back pay amount?  I would assume this would get really complicated should they go that route?  Pension adjustment, transfer value amount already paid out, affecting average best 5 etc....


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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #454 on: June 25, 2017, 22:36:58 »
Yes, pension amounts will be recalculated, and pension contributions will be deducted.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #455 on: July 02, 2017, 06:57:49 »
I just received my RPSR Pay Statement through EMAA.  The amount showing was shockingly lower than expected for a retro statement covering 3+ years.  Unfortunately the statement has a disclaimer which reads "Not all Pay Statement information can be displayed through EMAA due to the high number of transactions contained in the statement. Please contact your Pay Office for a copy of your entire Pay Statement." so I have no idea if this is it for my retro, if this is my regular Class A pay or if supplementary deposits will be forthcoming.

What concerns me is that the gross amount on my EMAA pay statement is roughly 40% of what I was expecting.

It appears that some members in my regiment didn't get the June Class A pay but did get the retro... so that might be the reason why.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #456 on: July 02, 2017, 10:44:53 »
Would a reg force member (over a decade of service) who passed away in the last year or so be entitled to to any retro pay? Obviously not him but his wife?
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #457 on: July 02, 2017, 11:45:41 »
Would a reg force member (over a decade of service) who passed away in the last year or so be entitled to to any retro pay? Obviously not him but his wife?
Yes, the estate should receive it.  I'd suggest contacting the RPPO for detauls; there may be issues to address before it can be released.


And re:End June class A: my understanding is that the pay cut off date was advanced due to the retro, so a number of folks did not have pay approved before the cut off.  Ask your OR.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #458 on: July 02, 2017, 13:28:53 »
And re:End June class A: my understanding is that the pay cut off date was advanced due to the retro, so a number of folks did not have pay approved before the cut off.  Ask your OR.

That's what I figured but since I'm on Class B it had no impact for me.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #459 on: July 02, 2017, 19:01:16 »
Ok, so I haven't really been following this whole pay increase topic since I have been out of the reg force and working in civilian land since the beginning of 2017. I had everything sorted out with my pension and claims, so when I saw a big lump of money from the gov't in my bank account at the end of June I was wondering, "Is that actually my money?" Based on the math of retro pay it seems like the numbers work out, I just wanted to make sure.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #460 on: July 03, 2017, 09:56:44 »
Ok, so I haven't really been following this whole pay increase topic since I have been out of the reg force and working in civilian land since the beginning of 2017. I had everything sorted out with my pension and claims, so when I saw a big lump of money from the gov't in my bank account at the end of June I was wondering, "Is that actually my money?" Based on the math of retro pay it seems like the numbers work out, I just wanted to make sure.

This whole pay increase topic? Where have you been? Ok, so after reading this thread, and probably dozens of media blogs and social media... are you sure now?
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #461 on: July 03, 2017, 09:59:10 »
Actually, Ariconius, after looking at your profile, I'M not so sure... you list your rank as a recruit. Not sure that a "big" lump sum as you put it would be headed your way...
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #462 on: July 03, 2017, 10:16:03 »
Yes, the estate should receive it.  I'd suggest contacting the RPPO for detauls; there may be issues to address before it can be released.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #463 on: July 03, 2017, 11:33:21 »
Actually, Ariconius, after looking at your profile, I'M not so sure... you list your rank as a recruit. Not sure that a "big" lump sum as you put it would be headed your way...
Previous posts indicate they started basic July 2013. Entirely possible served and released and was entitled to backpay.

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #464 on: July 06, 2017, 09:24:26 »
Saw this on Morale Toilet, thought of this thread:

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #465 on: July 08, 2017, 17:52:23 »
Okay, I'm wondering if any other recently retired members have received extra money.  I had a normal pension deposit on 28 June and then another deposit a day or two later but nowhere near what I was expecting as back pay.  Guess I need to call the pension office to see what's going on there. 

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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #466 on: July 08, 2017, 18:05:15 »
Okay, I'm wondering if any other recently retired members have received extra money.  I had a normal pension deposit on 28 June and then another deposit a day or two later but nowhere near what I was expecting as back pay.  Guess I need to call the pension office to see what's going on there. 

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Pension office can't help with back pay; that's the job of the Released Personnel Pay Office (RPPO); 1-800-773-7705.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #467 on: July 08, 2017, 18:12:26 »
Pension office can't help with back pay; that's the job of the Released Personnel Pay Office (RPPO); 1-800-773-7705.

Thanks. That's the # I needed.  :)
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #468 on: July 17, 2017, 10:28:47 »
Pension office can't help with back pay; that's the job of the Released Personnel Pay Office (RPPO); 1-800-773-7705.

Have now called twice and had to leave a message both times.  FYI, as per the recording, they won't do calculations for you.  They also say if you haven't received your money by end Aug, to call.  I just wished they had sent a statement for the deposit I received.  :(
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #469 on: July 17, 2017, 10:32:34 »
The GoC needs to get away from its "only access pay and pension info on GoC networks" obsession and permit Internet access.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #470 on: July 17, 2017, 11:05:14 »
The GoC needs to get away from its "only access pay and pension info on GoC networks" obsession and permit Internet access.

Yep.   :nod:
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #471 on: July 21, 2017, 09:26:08 »
So, finally got through to a real, live person at the RPPO.  It seems the one responsible for my letter group is working on the severance payouts.  It appears the measly sum I received at end June is my retro pay increase.   Somehow, I expected more.  Extra severance pay is still to come, but I'm sure that'll be peanuts....
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #472 on: July 21, 2017, 10:05:31 »
They should be able to send you a pay statement for your retro so you can review it.
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #473 on: July 21, 2017, 10:34:44 »
They should be able to send you a pay statement for your retro so you can review it.

You'd think, right?  Apparently the pay system crashed....   ::)
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Re: Retro Pay & Allow 1Apr 2014 - 1Apr 2017
« Reply #474 on: July 21, 2017, 10:38:03 »
It was actually a network outage at their offices.  But note how thin on the ground the RPPO is. Until the CAF takes pers admin seriously and invests people into the function, problems will persist.
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