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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #275 on: June 29, 2020, 19:34:06 »
That could very well be the case.

I agree there's very little difference between left-wing and right-right with the right wing as having a higher "kill count" than the left.
They're equally crap in my books.

Right wing morons are seen as a greater threat, that's fair.

I think the ability to cordon off a section of down town Ottawa and remain largely uncontested (so far) by police as more significant than cordoning off a farm or tract of land west of Wainwright Alberta. (parallels of course to Seattle vs rural Nevada)

What would have happened if a neo-nazi group condoned off a half dozen city blocks in a major US city?

We're very much on the same page on almost everything here.

Where we diverge a bit is on the tactics that the City of Seattle is using in simply letting this thing burn itself out or down before stepping in. I know similar tactics are used in other areas: for example British police when dealing/not dealing with Gypsy Travellers squatting on public and private lands; German police dealing/not dealing with squatters and anarchists in abandoned apartment buildings and the like. Those actually bother me more than Seattle because they seem to be systemic and could use some making of examples pour encourager les autres while Seattle is more a one-of at this point.

So far Seattle is far from a storming of the Bastille or Winter Palace type of socialist revolution. I can afford to chill over this one.

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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #276 on: June 29, 2020, 19:54:34 »
What would have happened if a neo-nazi group condoned off a half dozen city blocks in a major US city?

When have Nazis ever marched "in a major US city" without getting their asses kicked?  :)

Last time that happened was 1939.




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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #277 on: June 29, 2020, 19:58:58 »
When have Nazis ever paraded "in a major US city" without getting their asses kicked?  :)


East 86th St. New York City, October 30, 1939





Or Madison Square Gardens February 20, 1939






It's not all wishful thinking like . . . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCtvuIWvnEw
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #278 on: June 29, 2020, 23:39:31 »
>I can afford to chill over this one.

The people who live and work in the "occupied" zones, not so much.  It's easy to be cavalier with someone else's rights and livelihood.
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Re: Religious/Extremist Terrorism: Non-Muslim edition
« Reply #280 on: June 30, 2020, 14:02:25 »
The following is a translation from the original German in Stern Magazine:

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Restructuring in the Bundeswehr
As a result of right-wing extremist incidents: Kramp-Karrenbauer wants to partially dissolve KSK elite troops
Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer wants to fundamentally restructure the Bundeswehr special forces command following a series of right-wing extremist incidents. Part of the elite force is to be completely dissolved for this.

Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer wants to partially dissolve the KSK elite force after a series of right-wing extremist incidents. According to information from the "Welt" and the "Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung", 70 soldiers are affected. The elite unit should also be deprived of sovereignty over training. The second company, which is considered the starting point for right-wing activities, will be dissolved without replacement, the minister said on Tuesday of the "Süddeutsche Zeitung". This left the KSK with only three operational companies.

The CDU minister drew a critical conclusion about the situation at the KSK. The elite association had "become independent in part, also because there was a toxic leadership culture for individuals - it follows that the KSK cannot remain in its current state". Kramp-Karrenbauer wants to present the concept at a press conference on Wednesday.

No international exercises and assignments

Until a fresh start is achieved, the Bundeswehr special unit will not take part in international exercises and missions. The minister described the latest findings as "disturbing" and "alarming", according to which 48,000 rounds of ammunition and 62 kilograms of explosives had disappeared from the KSK. Now it is urgent to clarify whether sloppy records have been kept for years or whether war material has been stolen on a large scale, she said. Commander Markus Kreitmayr, who has led the association since 2018 and has clearly addressed the problems, should accompany the KSK through the reform process. "The wall of silence breaks," said Kramp-Karrenbauer. Kramp-Karrenbauer announced that a first balance should be drawn at the end of October. It is now a "probation opportunity" she told the newspaper. If the members of the KSK "did not hear this shot now, the question of reorganizing the KSK will inevitably arise," she added.

Again and again extremism cases at the KSK

The KSK has repeatedly made headlines with right-wing extremist incidents since 2017. It all started in April 2017 with a farewell party for a KSK commander, at which pig-heads were thrown, right-wing rocket played and the Hitler salute was shown. The Saxon police later found a weapon stash with ammunition and explosives at one of the party guests.

In January, the Military Shield Service (MAD) announced that 20 soldiers were suspected of being right-wing extremists. In relation to the number of troops, the proportion at that time was five times that of the Bundeswehr as a whole. In May, Kramp-Karrenbauer set up a working group to develop a concept to prevent right-wing extremist tendencies in the KSK, which she has now decided on.

According to a report by "Der Spiegel", an officer most recently addressed Defense Minister Annegret Kramp-Karrenbauer with a sometimes dramatic cry for help. In the twelve-page letter , the captain complained that right-wing extremist tendencies were tolerated and covered up within the unit. References to right-wing extremist comrades within the elite association, which is around a thousand strong, would "be noticed internally, but collectively ignored or even tolerated for different motives".

https://www.stern.de/politik/deutschland/ksk--kramp-karrenbauer-will-elitetruppe-der-bundeswehr-zum-teil-aufloesen-9320512.html

See also: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8475425/Germanys-elite-KSK-commando-unit-partially-dissolved.html

(As a totally self-serving aside, back in 2012 when I published my first novel, Allies: The Inquiry, I included one character, a company commander (albeit of the 1st Company) in the KSK, Hauptmann Dieter Schäfer, who wore clothing and insignia indicative of one with Neo-Nazi leanings. Prescient or what?)

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