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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #50 on: July 11, 2018, 14:20:41 »
So I'm hearing he grabbed her ***.

If that's true then I can totally understand where the confusion comes from and how a woman might perceive that differently than a man. Wide open to interpretation. Pretty understandable why Trudeau wouldn't consider that a negative interaction with a woman

Please confirm that you are kidding/joking/being sarcastic.

and apologize right away/the next day when he realized she was uncomfortable/worked for a big news paper.

Except he did not really apologize, and still has not. While he did, as reported, use the word "sorry", the more telling part of his statement was the follow-on sentence: "If I had known you were reporting for a national paper, I never would have been so forward". Combined, that is not an apology to his victim. It is an expression of concern that the story would spread more widely than it would have if she was only reporting for a small-town newspaper, or not reporting at all.

He did not say "I'm sorry for what I did to you", "I'm sorry that I made you feel uncomfortable", "I'm sorry that I offended you", or "What I did was wrong", or ask for her forgiveness, or anything remotely like a real apology.

He did not actually express any remorse for his action or the harmful effect that it had on her. He was only cared about himself, and not about her at all.

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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #51 on: July 11, 2018, 16:52:51 »
Please confirm that you are kidding/joking/being sarcastic.

Very much. Trudeau grabbed a woman's ***. He's been very ambiguous about the details and I think it's obvious why; he was hoping they wouldn't surface.

I don't know who he thinks he's fooling by saying that men and women perceive things differently when the context is grabbing a woman's ***. 


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He did not say "I'm sorry for what I did to you", "I'm sorry that I made you feel uncomfortable", "I'm sorry that I offended you", or "What I did was wrong", or ask for her forgiveness, or anything remotely like a real apology.

He did not actually express any remorse for his action or the harmful effect that it had on her. He was only cared about himself, and not about her at all.
Agree 100%. His "apology" reeks of elitist privilege. "If I had known you were a somebody and not a nobody I wouldn't have sexually assaulted you".

But it's okay because WE'VE reflected on it and WE'RE moving on. Right?
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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #52 on: July 11, 2018, 17:15:47 »
Trudeau grabbed a woman's ***.

Credible source, or speculation?

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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #53 on: July 11, 2018, 17:35:06 »
Trudeau grabbed a woman's ***.

Our late mayor R.I.P - allegedly - did that.

While in office.
https://nationalpost.com/posted-toronto/rob-ford-grabbed-my-***-last-night-former-opponent-accuses-torontos-mayor-of-lewd-exchange

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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #54 on: July 11, 2018, 18:29:36 »
Credible source, or speculation?

Something from an interview I caught on my news feed. I'll try and go back to find it.

Our late mayor R.I.P - allegedly - did that.

While in office.
https://nationalpost.com/posted-toronto/rob-ford-grabbed-my-***-last-night-former-opponent-accuses-torontos-mayor-of-lewd-exchange

Just a case of a man understanding a situation differently than a woman. He no doubt reflected on it and moved on.
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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #55 on: July 11, 2018, 18:42:11 »
Our late mayor R.I.P - allegedly - did that.

Inexcusable, but:

The career-killing outrage machine had not even begun construction, let alone been honed to its current level of excellence, back then.

Rob Ford had not professed his purity and perfection to the world or fired others for doing the same thing.

Just a case of a man understanding a situation differently than a woman. He no doubt reflected on it and moved on.

And was probably much more incapable of recalling the possible negative interaction (or anything else from that night).

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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #57 on: July 11, 2018, 20:11:28 »
Since you brought that individual into the discussion,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

For reference to the discussion,

"I did not pursue the Incident at the time and will not be pursuing the Incident further."

"The debate, if it continues, will continue without my involvement."

Regarding that,

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Expert says Trudeau groping allegation shouldn't have been dug up without woman's permission

Our late mayor R.I.P - allegedly - did that.

While in office.

I can see the headline now.  :)
https://twitter.com/joe_castaldo/status/310418323546447872

I sorta get the feeling you don't want this conversation to happen  :orly:
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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #58 on: July 12, 2018, 10:13:28 »
I thought we were discussing Trudeau. Not Rob Ford, who is dead or Trump who is American. Nor a need to draw comparisons. This is all on the PM. Not anyone else. That is the case at hand that needs settling.
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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #59 on: July 12, 2018, 10:35:34 »
My first post came after this,

What's discouraging here is the legions of folks who were outraged by DT's words, seem to have no problem with JT's deeds.

Regarding popularity with voters,

Nanos Weekly Tracking, ending July 6, 2018 ( released July 10, 2018 )
https://assets.nationalnewswatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/10060908/Political-Package-2018-07-06.pdf
"Preferred Prime Minister – Nanos tracking has Trudeau as the preferred choice as PM at 42.6 per cent of Canadians followed by Scheer (24.4%), Singh (7.1%) and May (6.0%).  Nineteen per cent of Canadians were unsure whom they preferred."

Be interesting to compare the results of next weeks poll.
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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #61 on: July 12, 2018, 16:06:27 »
I wonder this was an isolated incident and she's the only woman he was "so forward with", or, if other women are out there who were similarly treated.



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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #62 on: July 12, 2018, 20:43:38 »
What do you think? A rich, narcissist* individual out and about. My bet, yes.

https://www.thespec.com/news-story/2219070-sex-pizza-and-politics-with-justin-trudeau/

Sex, pizza and politics with Justin Trudeau - Oct 13, 2011

Extract: Justin Trudeau is engaging the youth vote. And if some of the 250 Liberal supporters at McMaster University’s Convocation Hall needed more convincing, Trudeau offered a small taste of what it’s like to be engaged in a political campaign.“The intensity, the excitement of being in the middle of a political campaign — it’s heavy, it’s fun stuff,” started Trudeau. “There’s pizza, sex and all sorts of fun things.”

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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #63 on: July 12, 2018, 23:29:04 »
I wonder this was an isolated incident and she's the only woman he was "so forward with", or, if other women are out there who were similarly treated.


Well...speculation..........

https://debatereport.com/canada/sophie-gregoire-trudeau-half-admitted-justin-cheated-on-her-in-2015/6818

And the Global News interview quoted in the above link........

https://globalnews.ca/news/1897750/a-family-affair-canadas-next-first-lady-lunch-with-sophie-gregoire-trudeau/

Pretty sure any wife confident in the answer would have said no.....just my 2¢ after 38 years of marriage......



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Re: Prime minister apologizes to reporter but doesn't remember why?
« Reply #64 on: November 10, 2018, 10:12:29 »
The day when the media no longer mentions the name Trudeau will be a good day!