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Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« on: October 23, 2019, 15:29:00 »
In light of the PM's announcement he would not be seeking to form a coalition government post election, this thread is established for discussions related to the new minority Liberal Government.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2019, 16:32:54 »
In light of the PM's announcement he would not be seeking to form a coalition government post election, this thread is established for discussions related to the new minority Liberal Government.

Trudeau doesn't need a coalition because the NDP are very weak, the Green Party is irrelevant, the Bloc can be manipulated and no other party likes the Conservatives so the threat of being backstabbed at the 11th hour is very remote right now.  In other words, Trudeau smells blood and is seizing the initiative.   

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2019, 16:38:51 »
We will see how his budget turns out.

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2019, 17:26:16 »
Trudeau doesn't smell anything.  He's nearly incapable of strategic political calculations and has demonstrated that consistently.  He has ruthless staff however who give him good advice.

NDP are broke.  Bloc have been proven by Harper to either abstain or be amenable to some bills.  As long as the Libs don't do anything that the NDP can't just say we don't like it but we're willing to hold our noses and vote yes, they should be ok.  Standby for more omnibus bills.

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2019, 17:33:24 »
Trudeau doesn't smell anything.  He's nearly incapable of strategic political calculations and has demonstrated that consistently.  He has ruthless staff however who give him good advice.

NDP are broke.  Bloc have been proven by Harper to either abstain or be amenable to some bills.  As long as the Libs don't do anything that the NDP can't just say we don't like it but we're willing to hold our noses and vote yes, they should be ok.  Standby for more omnibus bills.

When I say Trudeau, I really mean his handlers  8).  Everyone knows it's Gerry Butts & Co calling the shots in the background.

But I absolutely agree with everything you say.

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2019, 17:46:21 »
We will see how his budget turns out.

What?? It didn’t balance itself?
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2019, 11:25:26 »
its a work in progress.

He is sorry that his perception of the event and his are not the same.

Please let him know what costume you would be most offended by and he will have it ordered for his next photo shoot.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2019, 12:01:55 »
its a work in progress.

He is sorry that his perception of the event and his are not the same.

Please let him know what costume you would be most offended by and he will have it ordered for his next photo shoot.

That is actually pretty funny.

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2019, 19:41:34 »
Not winning a majority probably stung a little but Halloween this year must have been devastating for Trudeau.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6108716/trudeau-halloween-costume-2019/

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2019, 20:03:53 »
Not winning a majority probably stung a little but Halloween this year must have been devastating for Trudeau.

If we are still discussing blackface, I put my opinion here,
https://army.ca/forums/index.php/topic,131141.msg1588354.html#msg1588354
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2019, 21:18:44 »
Not winning a majority probably stung a little but Halloween this year must have been devastating for Trudeau.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6108716/trudeau-halloween-costume-2019/

Justin Trudeau won’t wear a Halloween costume for trick-or-treating this year

A wise decision.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2019, 15:42:55 »
Torn between putting this here or in the Election thread, so I flipped a coin ...
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Federal Green Party Leader Elizabeth May has stepped down as party leader.

Speaking to reporters in Ottawa Monday, May said that she is leaving the post she has held since 2006, effective today.

The B.C. MP said she felt comfortable stepping aside from the role now because the party is in a good position after a solid performance in the recent election campaign.

"We achieved more than one million votes for the first time ever," May said. "As I look around the world ... there is no other country with first-past-the-post that has achieved what we've achieved."

May said she will continue to sit as a member of Parliament and will be the party's parliamentary caucus leader. She said she promised her daughter that the 2019 election would be her last at the party's helm.

After suggesting last week in an interview with CBC News that she would consider running to be Speaker of the House of Commons, May said today she would not run and will remain on the opposition benches.

She said her two caucus mates wanted her to stay on as an MP to help hold the Liberal government to account ...
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2019, 14:43:25 »
New cabinet being sworn in -- list of who's who attached (source).
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2019, 16:19:47 »
What does a chief government whip do?
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2019, 16:28:57 »
What does a chief government whip do?
Keeps the troops in line for the boss (aka "enforcer") - this polite version from an older announcement from the info-machine:
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... Each recognized party in the Parliament of Canada has a whip. The whips ensure that enough party members are in the Chamber for debates and votes. They also determine which committees a party member will sit on, assign offices and seats in the House, and encourage members to follow party commitments.
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... The party whip works to ensure that the number of MPs in the House or at committee meetings is adequate to win a vote if one is called. When a vote is called in the House, division bells ring until the whips for each party are satisfied that there are sufficient numbers of members of their own party present for the vote to proceed.

The whip's role is especially important when there is a minority government or if the government has a slim majority, as the absence of a handful of MPs during a confidence vote can result in the defeat of the government. Party discipline is strict in Canada and MPs are expected to vote with the rest of their party in all but a few designated free votes ...
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2019, 16:38:14 »
Appointing the biggest ***** in the liberal party as whip? There goes any independent thought.




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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2019, 16:41:25 »
Appointing the biggest ***** in the liberal party as whip? There goes any independent thought.
Like that's a surprise for any minority government of any stripe ...

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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2019, 19:27:21 »
So Global Affairs is back to being Foreign Affairs, how many times have they changed the name of that department? What is Middle Class Prosperities? Sounds like a weird cabinet position to me.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2019, 21:08:27 »
I’m surprised that nobody has complained (yet) about “triggering” through the use of the word “whip” in politics. RSM will do.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2019, 08:53:55 »
I’m surprised that nobody has complained (yet) about “triggering” through the use of the word “whip” in politics. RSM will do.
I was going to use the term, but I don't think "RSM" quite covers the ... murkier elements of the job of keeping politicians in line.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2020, 18:07:52 »
Trudeau commits $10 million to African Nations to promote gender equality

https://globalnews.ca/video/6525637/trudeau-commits-10-million-to-african-nations-to-promote-gender-equality


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As I have seen directly in my own cabinet having more women in leadership positions leads to better decisions.


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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2020, 09:29:40 »
Trudeau commits $10 million to African Nations to promote gender equality as a bribe, plain an simple, hoping for their UN Security Council seat vote
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2020, 22:37:37 »
You have to love our government.

https://nationalpost.com/pmn/news-pmn/canada-news-pmn/trudeau-misses-deadline-for-disclosing-private-interests-to-ethics-commissioner
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2020, 10:53:14 »
And now our glorious leader has stated he will not step in, in any way with current wave of protests against the coastal gas link pipeline. So much for national leadership, guess the rule of law dies in our country.
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Re: Liberal Minority Government 2019 - ????
« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2020, 12:32:00 »
Well.  Look on the bright side.  If firearm owners protest confiscation and tie up trains and traffic, maybe they won't be immediately hauled off and detained, and subsequently prosecuted.
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