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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1125 on: October 30, 2018, 09:34:08 »
If you have not done POET yet, brush up on math and electronics (AC/DC).  These are the three POs that most fail.
Thanks. I don't have Poet but I did a part of it on my Eo tech course. I still have the pips and study package. I will definitly look into those.

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1126 on: February 10, 2019, 11:18:10 »
Hey i had a question about switching branch after finishing a university degree. im currently working on submitting my application for infantry since it takes a while to get everything done. I was wondering is it at all possible to go from infantry to a pilot after i finish my university with a private pilot license. If not, then would it be possible to leave army and reapply into the DEO program for pilots? Also a side question, how strict are they in accepting a person who had corrective eye surgery(i know back in the day they didnt want any with surgeries but considering a shortage im not sure how strictly they are following those old school rules).


Thank you very much for your time and input

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1127 on: February 10, 2019, 13:05:45 »
Are you currently applying for Regular Force or Reserve?

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1128 on: February 10, 2019, 15:19:10 »
Hello, Ali Manasiya

Firstly, in response to Garb811's post, and just to eliminate any possible confusion, there are no off-the-street Res F Pilot entry methods.

If your goal is Pilot, apply for that, and make sure to advise your Recruiters are aware of your intent to complete your degree (any reason not to apply for ROTP and be paid for it?). There are threads here, somewhere, that cover Occupational Transfers (OTs) and you should read about the potential hazards of those - there is no guarantee of being able to do that, or do it quickly. There are threads about flying training as well.

There is no sense wasting time with something other than your primary goal. Flying training is a very lengthy process, exacerbated by frequent and unpredictable delays between courses. My new partner at work just finished his Basic Helicopter Course and has a two-year wait for his Chinook course, for example.

You registered on this Site a while ago. If you've not already explored pertinent threads, I suggest that you do so. There is much solid information and advice therein.

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1129 on: March 13, 2019, 10:24:50 »
Hi everybody, little bit about me:

I'm DP1 qualified (non combat trade)

I have little bit over 2 years in

I want to change trade for image tech

I have an appointment with the bpso next month but before then, I have few questions.. I read a lot of documents, but different people are telling me different things.

Do I really need 48 months in to change trades? I don't like the trade I'm in right now and I would rather switch trades than staying in this one for at least 2years. I'm a little bit discouraged.

Do you have some experiences/infos to share ?

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1130 on: March 13, 2019, 10:44:42 »
Download the Canadian Forces app and read the CANFORGEN: 2019/2020 VOLUNTARY OCCUPATION TRANSFER (VOT) PROGRAM FOR NCM COMPETITION

That will gve you all the requirements and timelines to submit your VOT.

However, the requirement for the majority of VOTs is to be OFP in current trade.
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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1131 on: March 13, 2019, 14:29:16 »
I'll wager a guess that CFAO 11-12 is still Ref A on the VOTP message (there isn't a 5002 Series DAOD for VOT NCM Reg Force out yet);  if that's the case, then yes the 48 months of service will likely still be in effect, 36 months for LOTP (applies to Combat Arms MOSIDs).
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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1132 on: March 13, 2019, 15:10:31 »
Haven't we been waiting years for an NCM VOT DAOD to come out? I feel like I heard it was coming 5 years ago...

From my experience, you require 48 mos of continuous full time service as EITS said. The exception being for LOTP as previously stated. The only other exception IIRC was the SVOTP about 10 years ago or so, when they wanted to offload some numbers from Infantry to other trades. 

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1133 on: March 13, 2019, 16:19:33 »
It does appear that is still the case. OFP and 48 months continuous service.
The exception appears to be for those wanting to go SF Op and CBRN Op, they are reduced to 24 months.

Still no sign of DAOD.
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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1134 on: May 01, 2019, 20:55:22 »
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Voluntary occupation transfer for untrained personnel

Canadian Armed Forces members who are untrained in their current occupation and interested in an occupation transfer are encouraged to familiarize themselves with the newly released CANFORGEN 055/19.

The voluntary occupation transfer campaign for untrained officers and non-commissioned members is aimed at all military members who have not completed training in their current occupation and wish to change their occupation.

The 2019-20 campaign will start on April 30, 2019. Interested members can choose a maximum of three occupations and must be willing to accept an offer to any of the desired occupations listed on their application form. As a minimum, all applicants must have attained the following:


- Achieved their Basic Military Qualification or Basic Military Officer Qualification
- Be untrained in their current occupation
- Meet the entry standards for the desired occupation(s)
- Hold a valid medical category for the desired occupation(s)
- Hold a valid Force Test, and any other applicable physical fitness standards required for certain occupations
- Not be under remedial measures

CANFORGEN 055/19 contains additional information related to eligibility, applicable deadlines, required documents and additional criteria.

The operational success of the Canadian Armed Forces depends on our ability to generate and maintain a large, skilled, and volunteer force to meet a broad range of tasks at home and abroad. Providing a fulfilling career to our members in uniform is also a fundamental consideration in how the Canadian Armed Forces manages military personnel. This is why members are provided with the opportunity to voluntarily change their occupation in the early stages of their career, where possible.

Members willing to go through the voluntary occupation transfer process must first notify their chain of command of their intention to apply so that their unit can initiate the administrative process. Units and applicants are encouraged to contact their local Personnel Selection Officer should they have any questions.

https://ml-fd.caf-fac.ca/en/2019/05/28006
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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1135 on: May 04, 2019, 21:56:00 »
Hi guys,

This is for anyone who has been through a VOT. I am currently waiting for an offer should I be selected and have no clue how I should be contacted.

How did you guys receive your decisions or offers? Email, phone, CoC?

My reason for asking is  I don not have forces email access...

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1136 on: May 04, 2019, 22:30:31 »
I received mine through a message that I imagine first arrived at the designated authority for such personnel decisions (Adjutant or Unit CWO) who then filtered the message down the chain of command to myself, where I could choose to sign or not sign, then it was submitted back up the chain. Posting message followed after.

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1137 on: May 04, 2019, 22:50:15 »
I received mine through a message that I imagine first arrived at the designated authority for such personnel decisions (Adjutant or Unit CWO) who then filtered the message down the chain of command to myself, where I could choose to sign or not sign, then it was submitted back up the chain. Posting message followed after.



Thanks, I was worried it would only be emailed to my forces account and I'd miss out on it. 

Is this the same experience for other people?

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1138 on: May 04, 2019, 23:36:37 »
My VOT Offer went to my unit as a Msg but attached in an email, and Info copies went to the gaining and losing Career Manager as well the Formation PSO.  In my case, it was released on 19 Feb and I had until 04 Mar to accept.  After my acceptance msg was sent, I received my VOT Instruction message on 13 Mar. 

Timelines may vary, of course.  If you are expecting one, it is worthwhile to email your supervisor/CofC and ask them to call/email/contact you as soon as it comes in if you are on leave/TD, etc.
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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1139 on: May 05, 2019, 11:39:11 »
There is a very large distribution list that the messages get sent to including the base central registry, base/unit orderly rooms, unit adj, and a bunch more like was already mentioned.

One thing I have noticed this year from all the selection messages cut this is year (all my units messages come through my office) is that they are being sent directly to the member from the originator as well as the rest of the distribution list. I think this curb any chance of the member missing out on accepting the message. We all know it can sometimes be slow getting the messages from the bosses.
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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1140 on: May 08, 2019, 17:31:49 »
https://ml-fd.caf-fac.ca/en/2019/05/28006

Does this mean that they’re going to start the selections April 30th? I was told I’d get a message by the end of March, as the dead line was March 1st, but have yet to hear anything.

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1141 on: May 09, 2019, 23:28:14 »
I was told the same thing so I am hoping for the best.

BUT...I've come to learn that just because your told something doesn't mean it'll happen like that. Here's why I think April 30th is not a selection date...

Canforgen 055/19 was just released April 4, 2019 stating the campaign for VOT will be starting April 30th, 2019. Meaning applications can start being submitted. But the actual deadlines are quarterly (the next one being 28 JUN 19), and it states selections "will be made after the completion of each quarterly board". Therefore I would expect offers the be out in the July area.

Also, last years last deadline put offers out March past already so you wouldnt be in that category.

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1142 on: May 10, 2019, 09:44:24 »
Are you talking about VOT or VOT-U?

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1143 on: May 10, 2019, 15:51:32 »
VOT-U

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1144 on: May 10, 2019, 16:44:06 »
I submitted my VOT-U in January for the March selection, which for some reason did not happen yet. I know a few people who have been waiting for an offer as well. PSO office isn’t sure what’s going on either. So, if the March selection board didn’t happen yet, then who knows when the June one actually will.

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1145 on: May 10, 2019, 21:10:00 »
I submitted my VOT-U in January for the March selection, which for some reason did not happen yet. I know a few people who have been waiting for an offer as well. PSO office isn’t sure what’s going on either. So, if the March selection board didn’t happen yet, then who knows when the June one actually will.

I'm in the exact situation. My application was submitted in January and first told I'd hear back March/april

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1146 on: May 10, 2019, 22:46:24 »
Yeah? It’s been a little frustrating. If you hear anything please let me know! What trade are you and what trade are you going into? And what base? Just curious to know if we’re at the same base..

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1147 on: May 12, 2019, 04:14:38 »
I'm in Esquimalt. Going into martech with a PLAR

How about you ?

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1148 on: May 15, 2019, 11:15:35 »
Yeah? It’s been a little frustrating. If you hear anything please let me know! What trade are you and what trade are you going into? And what base? Just curious to know if we’re at the same base..

What trade and base are you?

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Re: Voluntary Occupational Transfer ( VOT )
« Reply #1149 on: May 22, 2019, 09:30:19 »
Hey everyone I got my vot message end of March and now I'm waiting on my posting instructions.  Just wondering if anyone  has got there posting instructions for there VOT or is everyone still waiting like me.