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Re: Canadian Military/Defence procurement process (Mega Thread)
« Reply #300 on: March 20, 2017, 19:22:24 »
Isn't that how we ended up with the Navstar MilCOTS MSVS?  Only one company bid?

pretty much, but at least they realized before it was too late the issues and cancelled the remaining of the contract, and now we have the Kerax 8x8 from Mack Defense coming our way this fall. Honestly who orders a military truck that says warranty void if used off road? people that make these contracts don't know what the military needs.
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Re: Canadian Military/Defence procurement process (Mega Thread)
« Reply #301 on: March 20, 2017, 21:12:39 »
pretty much, but at least they realized before it was too late the issues and cancelled the remaining of the contract, and now we have the Kerax 8x8 from Mack Defense coming our way this fall.
That is not at all what happened.  The MSVS project was always intended to deliver two types of trucks.  The MSVS MilCOTS and the MSVS SMP versions.  Neither should be replacing the simple to drive little MLVW.

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Re: Canadian Military/Defence procurement process (Mega Thread)
« Reply #302 on: July 30, 2017, 13:26:47 »
Apologize if this is a repost; couldn't find it anywhere

From the CBC story athttp://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/zodiac-inflatable-boats-procurement-tender-public-services-national-defence-cancelled-1.4220375

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Botched procurement delays inflatable boats for military - Politics
Dean Beeby Senior reporter, Parliamentary Bureau


Call it the case of the delayed dinghies.

The Canadian military wants to replace its fleet of inflatable landing craft, which is more than a quarter-century old, with 350 new inflatables designed for rapid deployment of up to a dozen infantry or engineers in each boat.

Public Services and Procurement Canada has flubbed the order twice since last year – and will be trying to place an order for a third time later this year.

The first request for competitive bids was issued May 30, 2016, revised that July, and was cancelled soon after "following questions from industry regarding the performance specifications," says a memo to then Public Services Minister Judy Foote.

The department reissued the tender Nov. 23 and attracted four bidders. One of the bids was eliminated because it didn't meet the technical requirements.



Read through the RFP and all the amendments with the questions (link below).  Looks pretty straightforward, so not sure where it could have gone off the rails.  There was the two step bid process though, which is relatively new.  Sounds like it may have gotten messed up, but not sure why it would have been bad enough to cancel and awarded contract.  Basically it lets you ask bidders that were non-compliant to clarify something in their bid (ie where in the bid does it show you meet requirement x, certificates missing, etc), but it's not something that has been applied across the board, so someone may have made a mistake.  Still, canceling a contract is pretty significant, and I'm assuming if there was nothing that Zodiac had done, they would have been compensated.

https://buyandsell.gc.ca/procurement-data/tender-notice/PW-MC-032-26068

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Re: Canadian Military/Defence procurement process (Mega Thread)
« Reply #303 on: August 01, 2017, 10:19:33 »
The SOR is fairly straightforward honestly. I don't know a boat /ship/hole in the ground from any other, but I know how to write specs, and these ones are pretty clear. A few of the questions from potential bidders are good, but as always, some are being a bit...dickish lol (generally due to their not being able to meet one or more of the requirements).

From what I am reading, the SOR was actually well done. It was the selection process at PWGSC that seems to have gone off the rails. I dealt with the office in Moncton the most and have to say I usually had no issues, even with larger (relatively) SOR's similar to this one or even the more complicated SOW's for services.

Any Sappers/SAR Techs/Bosun types with inflatable boat experience have anything to say about the specs?
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Re: Canadian Military/Defence procurement process (Mega Thread)
« Reply #304 on: September 14, 2017, 14:16:49 »
I suspect CGAI's Dave Perry is rather optimistic about RCN shipbuilding going as planned--and new RCAF fighter is a total balls-up.  Liberals heart just isn't in military except for Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! (as middle-class as possible).  Still lots of good work here:

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Re: Canadian Military/Defence procurement process (Mega Thread)
« Reply #305 on: September 14, 2017, 16:31:01 »
Of course Stephen Harper's and Conservatives' heart not with military either when procurment push came to budgetary shove, or when fatalities (Afghanistan).  Basically Jobs! Jobs! Jobs! for both parties.

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