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Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« on: December 08, 2005, 20:36:08 »
Does anyone know where one can purchase a Canadian (wide brimmed) combat hat in Barrie, Ontario?
I do not know if any of you live here, but I have been searching for a while, and I figured (possibly wrongly) that if any one knew, it would probably be you.
My apologies if this is placed in the wrong area, I am very interested in knowing where I can get one, as I am not in the forces.  I probably will be in two to three years though, Woot.
Any replies will be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2005, 20:47:12 »
Try Angie's on Dunlop, accross from Fred Grant Square.

They have the civi versions of the same manufacturer..(name escapes me at the moment)

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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2005, 21:04:21 »
Thank you very much, Ranger.  I will definately check that place out.
This is probably the first time on the internet, on a real forum that some one actually knows around Barrie.  I'm happy now.
That was greatly appreciated, and I am always willing to hear of more, if anyone knows of any others.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2005, 08:59:07 »
If not, i can guarantee you will find one on Ebay.  They are listed on there all the time, civi and issued.

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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2005, 09:36:11 »
If not, i can guarantee you will find one on Ebay.   They are listed on there all the time, civi and issued.

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Ebay has everything, one of my buddies showed up to work with a set of lieutenant general slips, and said he got them off ebay for 5$, and he said he saw a whole CADPAT uniform starting off for only 20$. Man it could be so easy for a civilian to impersinate a soldier, if they really wanted to.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #5 on: December 14, 2005, 03:25:59 »
There's always the Parklands USGI boonie in repro CADPAT. It's cheap and works fine if you can't get the issued item.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #6 on: December 14, 2005, 21:56:41 »
Does anyone know any good company sites that you could get military stuff off of pretty cheap? I know of only wheelers...
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #7 on: December 14, 2005, 23:02:28 »
There is www.armyissue.com
But I dont personally know if they are cheap.
Their in Mississauga, and from what their website shows, they may have what you want.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2005, 04:16:11 »
http://www.celsurplus.com/
I can assure you that the kit listed as 'issued'...is issued. Although most of the CADPAT combats are faded Gen1's.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2005, 07:36:09 »
cpgear.com

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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2005, 15:35:51 »
There's always the Parklands USGI boonie in repro CADPAT. It's cheap and works fine if you can't get the issued item.
I've sewn cats eyes on to the back of mine.

Its not USGI

USGI is the real deal issued kit. Parklands just copied the design of the US boonie. Its a knockoff.

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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2005, 21:44:03 »
Okay sorry, USGI pattern. It's still good if you can't get the issued piece. (although the webbing band is somewhat tight)
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #12 on: December 20, 2005, 08:36:05 »
what does CADPAT and MARPAT stand for anyways?
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2005, 09:43:01 »
CADPAT stands for Canadian Distruptive Pattern. MARPAT stands for Marine Pattern.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2005, 09:45:26 »
MARine PATtern, and CAnadian Disruptive PAttern

The U.S. Marines considered adopting CADPAT for their new pattern, however the Canadian government owns the copyright for the pattern.


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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #15 on: December 20, 2005, 09:49:46 »
yeah I was talking to one of my american buddies and he was like oh you guys have the digital camo too, as if they were the ones to start making it...
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #16 on: December 20, 2005, 23:31:00 »
Wasn't Canada the first country to use what is now considered digital camoflouge?
I hear yes a lot, but I have read one thing that said no.
I read somewhere that in the 70s or around then at least, some country made some, I doubt that is was anything like the stuff used today.
But who cares, whether we were or not, I will still say we were  ;D
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2005, 00:54:46 »
Canada was the first country to mass-produce digital camoflage (CADPAT). The US Marines followed with their own MARPAT (which Canada had no part in making). Since then many countries have made their own digital patterns.
Interestingly enough, the original CADPAT pattern was similar to German Flecktarn (dots) but with the colors that we use now. Also, the forementioned Flecktarn was the closest that any country had come to digital camoflage (without actually...ya know).
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2005, 14:30:57 »
Where we have the patten on it, does that mean no one else can use it without buying the rights to make it or just companies in canada can't produce it without permission?
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #19 on: December 21, 2005, 14:40:59 »
Some people consider a russian pattern(KLMK) the first digital cam, it was first issued in the late '70s an '80s

http://www2.ttcn.ne.jp/~camouflage/image/soviet_camo.jpg

The first country to use a real digital cam was Canada, than shortly the USMC MARPAT came out. Canada provided some information,etc on digital patterns an CADPAT to the people who devolped MARPAT, but that was it.



MacKenzie, its a copyright bascially, if you want to make something with the CADPAT pattern you must obtain permission first.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #20 on: December 21, 2005, 14:43:36 »
ok thats what I thought, thanks
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2005, 19:00:05 »
Here's the thing, only DND can use the actual combat pattern (the pattern used to make the uniforms, not CADPAT). Civilian companies can use real CADPAT, however they need to get permission from DND first and it can NOT be in the form of an issued item. However, if you take something like Mountain Stalker (or one of the many lookalikes) you don't need to get permission from DND (as long as you don't copy the combat pattern).
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #22 on: December 22, 2005, 22:25:20 »
Some people consider a russian pattern(KLMK) the first digital cam, it was first issued in the late '70s an '80s

And has anyone seen what certain German Soldiers in WWII were wearing?
I'll double check with a friend of mine for more specific info, unless anyone here knows what I'm talking about.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #23 on: December 22, 2005, 22:28:46 »
The stuff that was basically lines forming grids of a about 1-2mm with some of the resulting squares filled in?
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2005, 04:54:44 »
Splinter?

Or BGS?

I dunno if I'd call those digital. Geometric perhaps, but not digital.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2005, 12:38:22 »
I would have to say geometrical, not exactly digital
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2005, 15:04:54 »
Yeah and the army took the CADPAT design from the air force if you can believe that.

Snow suit, rain jacket, everything you could dream up in CADPAT.

Looked good to me whilst standing there in my olive green windpants..
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2005, 15:20:48 »
BGS isn't a WW2 era camo pattern.

None of the German patterns are digital, atleast what is considered digital camo today.


Old Ranger, are you referring to the different camo uniforms the Waffen-SS wore?
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #28 on: December 25, 2005, 00:03:08 »
Old Ranger, are you referring to the different camo uniforms the Waffen-SS wore?

I think so.  I still have to get in touch with my buddy who does re-enactments.

He was saying similar to digital.
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #29 on: December 25, 2005, 02:40:36 »
When you find out can you post a picture (or atleast what the pattern is called)?
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #30 on: December 25, 2005, 04:30:52 »
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
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Re: Purchasing a Combat Hat...
« Reply #32 on: December 26, 2005, 01:08:37 »
Honestly not sure which one he was refering too, Still trying to get hold of him.
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