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That might be so, but the Foreign Legion has one of the toughest basic training courses around (they do things that in any other military would be strictly forbidden). It takes a very special kind of person to serve in the Legion, and I don't think a lot of people looking to get into the CF are willing to give up 5 years of their life and go fight for a foreign country and have almost no contact with their family.
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The legion is comparable to the minions of hell, I would only join if If all else fails and that after every other possible solution has been attempted and unsuccessful. It is selling your soul to the devil. OR If you want to immigrate to France but get rejected, you might as well consider this option as an immigration plan, for after a specific term of service in the foreign legion, they grant you French Citizenship. For the price of selling yourself, and converting your mind and soul into a souless war machine, Hey it might be worth it eh? Or you can just wait a few more months before being accepted into the CF? Patience is a virtue in the CF, I've been at this for almost a year and have been reminded by the forums of this.I'm just getting more and more excited until some trades open up. Consider the wait part of you first training, it helps...I hope..No..IT DOES.
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cosmoking said:
I really hope you have a frame of reference for that comparrison, or are you just another eternal adolescent sitting in mom's basement in your Spiderman jammies spouting off things you know nothing about? Unless you've lived it, or at least tried, keep your crap to yourself.
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Might as well just lock this up now......before the OP ends up in the corner of his room, on the floor, crying for his mom to bring him a nightlight and a glass of milk.
I didn't expect my remark to attract so many senior officers to comment here, I salute all of you now as a civilian if allowed.
I didn't mean to be disrespectful by saying it's easy, if in any way any of you feels that it's insulting, I apologize sincerely.
But I still have to say that once I got a chance to set my foot in St-Jean, I would be very confident to show you how I go all the way through with A+ and be an Elite soldier
and to be as good as all of you guys. And by then, the only thing you will say to me is "I have to admit that you are one of the best soldier I have ever known of".
I didn't mean to be disrespectful by saying it's easy, if in any way any of you feels that it's insulting, I apologize sincerely.
But I still have to say that once I got a chance to set my foot in St-Jean, I would be very confident to show you how I go all the way through with A+ and be an Elite soldier
and to be as good as all of you guys. And by then, the only thing you will say to me is "I have to admit that you are one of the best soldier I have ever known of".
Okay - I'll explain the reaction:
You came into a crowd of largely military people with varying degrees of experience, in some cases more years of service than you have of life in general, and proceed to tell us how easy it is. A little arrogant, nein?
And then you tell us how you will ace everything.
Your confidence is admirable, but bragging is a little premature.
You are welcome here, but settle down a bit or you won't find this place or the CF very pleasant.
You came into a crowd of largely military people with varying degrees of experience, in some cases more years of service than you have of life in general, and proceed to tell us how easy it is. A little arrogant, nein?
And then you tell us how you will ace everything.
Your confidence is admirable, but bragging is a little premature.
You are welcome here, but settle down a bit or you won't find this place or the CF very pleasant.
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cosmoking said:
So your saying, that you are that good? Or are you hopeful that you will be that good?
Being overconfident isn't a good quality in a soldier..let alone being a civilian where your peers despise you for it. Hell you sound like you are a born a CSOR special forces French legion delta force commando. I think Basic Training has a purpose and thats process makes you into a soldier, no one is born a soldier, the military simply makes you into one, if your not qualified for it, you simply aren't, if you are: good for you. Now go take your CFAT to find out if you are that good, and don't whine in the forums if you do good or bad since you won't find out and they only tell if you are qualified for your applied trade. People like you make a bad name for applicants.
But hey good luck on your CFAT ^-^
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cosmoking said:
The problem here is, in part, that you are judging the basic training from Basic Up, a program produced by the CF to give some insight into BMQ. They don't sugarcoat it, but they simply cannot show most of what happens. This is what happens when you compress a few months of training into 15 episodes lasting 23:50 each.
The information shown there is good, and certainly able to somewhat guide a potential recruit as to some of what they will face. However, you are seeing a limited amount of what is done. You don't feel the early morning wake up and PT, or death by PowerPoint, or meticulous inspections, or being yelled at for f***ing up something you would otherwise think of as insignificant. You only see it. Seeing and doing are two very different things. Simply put, you are not qualified to tell people it would be easy without having done it. I have a few friends who decided to enrol and said from the outset it would be easy. Of these, most took a VR.
I personally have watched both seasons of the series, to help give myself a bit of insight as to how BMQ is run and what is done there, in part since I am currently applying to join the naval reserves as a Log O (who do IAP/BOTC as NOTC Venture, and it is very similar, albeit not identical, to the IAP/BOTC run at St. Jean) (a different course, but with several common topics and themes). I am trying to learn from it, but I don't take it as everything there is; this is simply wrong.
It's either that, or you are supremely arrogant and overconfident in your abilities...
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I watched both seasons of basic up right before going off to basic in March.cosmoking said:
While the show does it's best, it only touches on what goes on in St Jean. Don't think it's going to be easy judging it from that show. There is a lot of stuff that isn't shown, and some things one has to experience firsthand to fully appreciate.
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Cosmoking, even in days of old, before comments of similar this yours made on world internet-webs, as myself I only in measly sea puppy cadets (those yet not even get worthy of look from Shads) we would make benefit you of blanket party, probably first followed by visit of showers, to then outside block, ground to be rolled around you on and of shake-and-bake you, this being the ways of our "course welcome" to you given.
Loosely Canadianized as "dude, are you for real?!" :
anyway, here's a Kepi for you on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/GENUINE-FRENCH-FOREIGN-LEGION-KEPI-BLANC-ETRANGERE-58-/160481351254?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255d6f1656
might as well get squared away Tout de suite ;D
Loosely Canadianized as "dude, are you for real?!" :
anyway, here's a Kepi for you on eBay...
http://cgi.ebay.com/GENUINE-FRENCH-FOREIGN-LEGION-KEPI-BLANC-ETRANGERE-58-/160481351254?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item255d6f1656
might as well get squared away Tout de suite ;D
My judgement about the basic training is not appropriate, think twice, I don't even like what I said, IT IS errogant and make me look like an idiot, that's right, nobody is qualified to say anything is easy before he has done it already, it's still not right to say that even after, I was totally wrong on this.
To Mr. desert_rat:
The FFL thing, it's not for me, it might be an option for those who are desperately to join the army so that he can fight together with his fellow guys but still couldn't get enlisted. Your mocking is not appreciated.
But the "course welcome" you are talking about, I agree with you, a person with arrogant attitude and whoever doesn't respect others deserve that treatment.
The FFL thing, it's not for me, it might be an option for those who are desperately to join the army so that he can fight together with his fellow guys but still couldn't get enlisted. Your mocking is not appreciated.
But the "course welcome" you are talking about, I agree with you, a person with arrogant attitude and whoever doesn't respect others deserve that treatment.
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