Canadian Border Agents want to patrol Canada US Border

[Kirkhill]

Border agents should have power to patrol entire Canada-U.S. border, union chief urges Ottawa

National president of the Customs and Immigration Union calls on the federal government to update mandate that currently prevents border agents from patrolling beyond regular crossing points

www.theglobeandmail.com

A bit of a change from the days of trying to convince the Border Agents to accept guns.

Now they want to patrol the entire border.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Likely angling to save PS jobs

 

[CBH99]

Border agents should have power to patrol entire Canada-U.S. border, union chief urges Ottawa

National president of the Customs and Immigration Union calls on the federal government to update mandate that currently prevents border agents from patrolling beyond regular crossing points

www.theglobeandmail.com

A bit of a change from the days of trying to convince the Border Agents to accept guns.

Now they want to patrol the entire border.

Good. I'm all for it.

Criminals tend to avoid police, border officers, etc. I'm all for them getting to patrol their respective jurisdictions vs stuck at a port of entry not allowed to go anywhere.

The stretches between ports of entry aren't as bare as they may seem, but having visible boots on the ground enhances deterrence & allows for prudent detainment when needed.

With the immigration situation the way it is in the US & the threat of mass deportations starting in January, physically patrolling the border can't be a bad thing.

 

[Remius]

Likely angling to save PS jobs

It’s coming from the union so no doubt.

 

[Haggis]

A bit of a change from the days of trying to convince the Border Agents to accept guns.

There are still a small number of Border Services Officers who have not completed arming training for a variety of reasons. Every single recruit graduating from the CBSA College does so as an armed officer these days.

Now they want to patrol the entire border.

There are so many moving parts to be put into play before this would be able to happen. It would take years. The arming project alone took a decade.

 

[OldSolduer]

Border agents should have power to patrol entire Canada-U.S. border, union chief urges Ottawa

National president of the Customs and Immigration Union calls on the federal government to update mandate that currently prevents border agents from patrolling beyond regular crossing points

www.theglobeandmail.com

A bit of a change from the days of trying to convince the Border Agents to accept guns.

Now they want to patrol the entire border.

I think it’s a good idea.

 

[lenaitch]

As do I. Specialty teams can't be everywhere and RCMP/SQ/OPP field personnel have enough to do and may not have similar authorities as the CBSA although I'm not sure.

 

[Navy_Pete]

Dumb question, but does that mean their current scope only deals with border security at checkpoints and customs clearance spots (ports etc)?

So our border security agency has been kind of assuming people only cross the border at official spots, and left illegal crossings to whatever police agency has jurisdiction in the area?

 

[FSTO]

As a person who illegally crossed the border with a carload of pisspoor Old Milwaukee beer (on the prairies) there is an awful lot of territory to cover.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Never admit to breaking the law, especially in writing.

 

[FSTO]

Never admit to breaking the law, especially in writing.

Ha, I got a pardon!!!

Also I have no political ambitions, although breaking the law is not the political killer it once was.

 

[Halifax Tar]

As a person who illegally crossed the border with a carload of pisspoor Old Milwaukee beer (on the prairies) there is an awful lot of territory to cover.

This is how I see you now...

 

[Remius]

This is how I see you now...

That looks exactly like one of my great uncles from Cornwall. Only it was bootlegged cigarettes from the reserve and Labatt 50 in his hands.

 

[brihard]

Dumb question, but does that mean their current scope only deals with border security at checkpoints and customs clearance spots (ports etc)?

So our border security agency has been kind of assuming people only cross the border at official spots, and left illegal crossings to whatever police agency has jurisdiction in the area?

CBSA only works the actual border at ports of entry. They do have inland enforcement teams who investigate. Between ports of entry is generally an RCMP border enforcement team problem, though other police services may respond too, and some busy border areas have joint task forces (looking at you, Cornwall). Like anything else in policing, resources are always an issue.

 

[Kirkhill]

Ha, I got a pardon!!!

Also I have no political ambitions, although breaking the law is not the political killer it once was.

Who knew the grid roads on the border don't actually parallel the border?

Discovered while showing an inlaw the countryside on a Sunday outing. Ironically she is the wife and secretary of a surveyor...

Can't anyone do their job right?

 

[Good2Golf]

As a person who illegally crossed the border with a carload of pisspoor Old Milwaukee beer (on the prairies) there is an awful lot of territory to cover.

What, and not drink Lucky beer?

That looks exactly like one of my great uncles from Cornwall. Only it was bootlegged cigarettes from the reserve and Labatt 50 in his hands.

A quart, or a case, Remius?

 

[captloadie]

Perhaps wings in the air would be better than boots on the ground. But good luck getting TC to approve anything that is outside the norm for flight operations.

 

[Remius]

What, and not drink Lucky beer?



A quart, or a case, Remius?

Both lol

 

[Rifleman62]

Canadian Border Agents want to patrol Canada US Border​

Finally found a purpose for the TAPV.

 

[KevinB]

As a person who illegally crossed the border with a carload of pisspoor Old Milwaukee beer (on the prairies) there is an awful lot of territory to cover.

I’m not sure if the laws were updated post 9/11 but there was no requirement to cross at a checkpoint.

The requirement was solely to make a declaration when you were able to do so.

Some of the non 24hr border crossings had declaration cards available to fill out and drop in their inbox - or you could mail them in when you got to a location.

I used to cross all the time along the St Mary’s river by boat when at my grandparents cottage on leave, Sugar Island on the US side was the closest liquor store. The crossing was fine, but you needed to pay duties on the alcohol you bought in the US.