iTeager said:CIA is Career impact allowance. DEC is diminished earnings capacity.
If you have DEC you will more than likely get CIA. Usually you need to be granted CIA first to get DEC.
If you don't have either you will have to wait for CIA to be granted then apply for DEC.
For better clarification here is the policy for the CIA and supplement. http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/2126
Here is the DEC policy. http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/about-us/policy/document/1971
GreenArmychick said:i
interesting. CM working on DEC now. I just got a call from CVVRS saying I am not able to be gainfully employed. The DEC process almost completed. My CM just applied for me for the CIA not long ago. looks like DEC may be done before CIA. I don't see anywhere that the CIA must be in place before DEC.
Teager said:A lot including myself had to get CIA before CM would do DEC. DEC can happen fast once paperwork is done only took a week for me once all submitted. You then have to apply for the supplement which is on the CIA form. FYI it's about a 6 month wait to actually receive your money if approved for CIA/supp from what I have been reading but it is back dated to date of application.
Teager said:CM brings all reports to a team of medical professionals and they will come to a decision for DEC. Since you are unable to work you will more than likely be deemed DEC.
For PFL...
So once you receive CIA and supplement your CIA grade will be protected and you will be automatically put on the additional pain and suffering benefit which will be tax free. If you are receiving the supplement that will also be protected and you will still receive that however anyone deemed DEC after April 1 2019 will not receive the supplement as it will be eliminated. Those that are DEC may also be eleigiable for a 1% pay raise if you have under 20 years of service. So 1% for each year until you would have hit 20 years in the CAF.
ELB will still be the same amount it's just rolled into a few other things and renamed. VAC says you will receive the same amount you receive now before offsets for all benefits possibly more.
Scroll to the very bottom there is Q&A there for each benefit that explains how they are going to do business under the PFL.
http://www.veterans.gc.ca/eng/services/pension-for-life
GreenArmychick said:So DEC all done. CIA and CIA supplement applied too.
I realize waiting for award can take upward to a year but how about CIA? Are wait times same or quicker?
Are CIa and supplement going to be protected next year? The way I read the policy, it sounds a but iffy
GreenArmychick said:Right, reassessments.
I'm at 93% right now. what's the cut-off for no more reassessment?
have a couple more claims to put in yet.
This new PFL is not looking good at all.
CampCricket said:I am in a similar situation as Armychick. My case manager recently started the process for DEC. My physician and psychiatrist both filled out reports stating I was medically unsuitable to return to work. I am at 95% according to VAC on my disability rating. I am in receipt of CIA level 3. I was deemed totally disabled by Health Canada, Service Canada and SISIP LTD. I currently receive CPP disability pension along with my CF pension. I attempted a RTW program with the Public Service where they made significant accommodations for my medical limitations... but was unsuccessful (my medical issues deemed me unreliable and a liability/safety issue)... so I feel comfortable saying I should meet the DEC eligibility. That being said - there is still a requirement for re-evaluation every 2 years? And if so, is this still true if in receipt of CPP Disabilty?
Armychick, please keep me informed when your DEC actually goes through. That way I have a better idea of the timeline. I am hoping to have DEC approved with enough time to apply for the CIA Supplement before April 2019.