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Liberals announce $1.24B sole-sourced deal to upgrade search and rescue helicopter fleet

Colin Parkinson

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Elon Musk pointed out a scenario where a human walking towards a crosswalk disappears behind a parked van, the human driver likley expects that human to reappear and tries to anticipate that event. AI can't at the moment as that introduces to many potentiel variables. Humans generally pick up far more visual clues than AI can. Not to say that you can't find human drivers right now that perform poorer than current AI.
 

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Elon Musk pointed out a scenario where a human walking towards a crosswalk disappears behind a parked van, the human driver likley expects that human to reappear and tries to anticipate that event. AI can't at the moment as that introduces to many potentiel variables. Humans generally pick up far more visual clues than AI can. Not to say that you can't find human drivers right now that perform poorer than current AI.
Oh there are a lot of idiots out there for sure.

The article also states that most of the testing has been done in Phoenix or So Cal and they are still having problems. I cannot fathom the issues of black ice, snow covered, fog, blizzards and everything else nature can throw at you.

Electric and driverless cars are not the solution for us. Better public transit and electric HFR and HSR will be a much better route to take to get us out of carbon spiral that we are in.
 

Colin Parkinson

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We can't afford "better" public transit without going with AI driven buses. A major cost of tranist, is the drivers and that limits how many buses you can put on the road. Also tranist out here only became close to self-funding a few years before Covid and now I suspect they lost that as WFH has caused ridership to plummet. Transit users don't pay for road improvement or repairs, that money comes from property owners, fuel tax and parking taxes. So get rid of private cars and where are you getting the money to maintain the road network in urban areas?
 

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We can't afford "better" public transit without going with AI driven buses. A major cost of tranist, is the drivers and that limits how many buses you can put on the road. Also tranist out here only became close to self-funding a few years before Covid and now I suspect they lost that as WFH has caused ridership to plummet. Transit users don't pay for road improvement or repairs, that money comes from property owners, fuel tax and parking taxes. So get rid of private cars and where are you getting the money to maintain the road network in urban areas?
That's the circle that will be hard to square isn't it?
Electric cars will get rid of fuel taxes right?
Getting rid of cars and introducing more trams and public transit will alleviate the wear and tear on the roads which should reduce costs, maybe.
 

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That's the circle that will be hard to square isn't it?
Electric cars will get rid of fuel taxes right?
Getting rid of cars and introducing more trams and public transit will alleviate the wear and tear on the roads which should reduce costs, maybe.
trams, buses and subways only work in major urban areas. Less density means empty buses which then cost a lot more per ride and pollute a lot more per capita than the PMV. It is either that or you force people to walk to the major routes and that won't wash at minus 10 or in a snow squall. So-called company towns are the only realistic way to get commuters off the roads where the job and the home are co-located. And good luck with that. But these problems exist whether or not you go electric or stay with petrol.
 

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Electric cars will get rid of fuel taxes right?
At some unknown point in the future, when (if) EVs become a significant mode, the government will have to figure out how to replicate the fuel tax revenue.
 

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At some unknown point in the future, when (if) EVs become a significant mode, the government will have to figure out how to replicate the fuel tax revenue.
It will likely be a km tax. Fairly easy to do with computerized cars. Even without, in places like NZ, you buy “road tax coupons” every 1000km and write in your odometer reading. If you get pulled over, you have to produce your tax coupons.
 

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Could see something like the UK has where your vehicle registration renewal requires you to fill in the odometer current odometer reading. They calculate the difference between old odometer and new reading and you're taxed a $x /km regardless of vehicle type as a roads tax.
 

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trams, buses and subways only work in major urban areas. Less density means empty buses which then cost a lot more per ride and pollute a lot more per capita than the PMV. It is either that or you force people to walk to the major routes and that won't wash at minus 10 or in a snow squall. So-called company towns are the only realistic way to get commuters off the roads where the job and the home are co-located. And good luck with that. But these problems exist whether or not you go electric or stay with petrol.
Or tax the crap out of cars inside city limits to the point where owning a personal vehicle in a city is unaffordable.
Won’t happen though
 

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Or tax the crap out of cars inside city limits to the point where owning a personal vehicle in a city is unaffordable.
Won’t happen though

Justin Trudeau Yes GIF by Patriot Act
 

Colin Parkinson

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Or tax the crap out of cars inside city limits to the point where owning a personal vehicle in a city is unaffordable.
Won’t happen though
Don't worry they already made Vancouver unaffordable, without even going there yet. Parking tax is 21% though.
 

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Could see something like the UK has where your vehicle registration renewal requires you to fill in the odometer current odometer reading. They calculate the difference between old odometer and new reading and you're taxed a $x /km regardless of vehicle type as a roads tax.
Every modern car has the technology in it already. Its a software update. Every car sold today has a GPS and mobile data connection. It was mandated already. Doug Ford in Ontario removing the license renewal was him just jumping the gun. He knows that their will be per km charges in the very near future. Also with variable pricing for time and location data. Also every car today has a kill switch in too. This is not conspiracy stuff, I was at OEM conferences in Detroit about it. Everything is just a software update.
 
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