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Logistic Vehicle Modernization Project - Replacing everything from LUVW to SHLVW

Cool shit don't get me wrong but any war we fight needing heavy mech forces will primarily be in the European theatre. Makes sense to have supply lines as close to there as possible.

Caesar/Archer > Leo > CV90/Puma > M777, etc etc.
And domestically, we're next door to the factory for the Abrams and Bradley, which are even also more common in Europe than Leopard 2s and CV90s.
 
And domestically, we're next door to the factory for the Abrams and Bradley, which are even also more common in Europe than Leopard 2s and CV90s.
With 30% exchange rate and that pesky 30% FMS. With the state of our GDP, debt and currency. You are going to have to factor that in if you want any amount of equipment. Unlike the Germans or the US , the SK's are quite flexible in meeting customer needs and would likley be willing to build a assembly and repair facility here in Canada for their equipment.
 
With 30% exchange rate and that pesky 30% FMS. With the state of our GDP, debt and currency. You are going to have to factor that in if you want any amount of equipment. Unlike the Germans or the US , the SK's are quite flexible in meeting customer needs and would likley be willing to build an assembly and repair facility here in Canada for their equipment.
30% FMS isn’t a set rule.

There is always a FMS Fee, but it depends on the quantity of equipment desired versus the DoD services contract. Demand and availability of the items, and of course the country it is going to.

There have been FMS sales under 4% (which is basically the admin fee.

Heck services don’t always sell equipment to other services at the same price.
 
With the increasing public discussion in the US regarding Canada's need to reach 2% I'm sure our friendly neighbours are itchin to divest themselves of a reasonable quantity of their surplus to help and it may come at favourable rates. Include consideration if all the present Leos and their parts inventory found their way to Ukraine and everyone wins.
 
With the increasing public discussion in the US regarding Canada's need to reach 2% I'm sure our friendly neighbours are itchin to divest themselves of a reasonable quantity of their surplus to help and it may come at favourable rates. Include consideration if all the present Leos and their parts inventory found their way to Ukraine and everyone wins.
1. Why did you jump into a thread on logistic vehicles to fantasize about buying battle tanks?
2. What is the source of this reoccurring idea that the US is so awash in equipment that they are desperate to off-load it?
3. Why is there always someone who thinks the solution to making CAF a capable military is by casting away kit that works and buying old, used equipment that someone else is desperate to divest?
 
1. Why did you jump into a thread on logistic vehicles to fantasize about buying battle tanks?
2. What is the source of this reoccurring idea that the US is so awash in equipment that they are desperate to off-load it?
3. Why is there always someone who thinks the solution to making CAF a capable military is by casting away kit that works and buying old, used equipment that someone else is desperate to divest?
For 2., aren't certain vehicles being built well beyond US Army requirements on Congressional direction?

No idea if there'd be any appetite for foreign sales of the excess, rather than stockpiling it, or if it's new-build in the stockpile versus used gear.
 
Also, all our Leopard 2s were used, and most of them are in trash condition these days.

And we have full confidence in their abilities ;)

tanks GIF
 
Give me 10 Captains or Senators and I'll give you 10 Met Vehicles to support the 3 RegF gun regiments, and a couple to support 4GS/train with.

The MSVS is a complete waste of a vehicle/SEV for Met.

There's value in a common platform and common parts making support easier. There's also value in avoiding overkill.

Look at the bright side: the CAF thought that Met was a priority for new vehicles.
 
There's value in a common platform and common parts making support easier. There's also value in avoiding overkill.

Look at the bright side: the CAF thought that Met was a priority for new vehicles.
The artillery quite enjoyed having live data in the last shooting war, so they have been good to us. (Side note; the first time I was treated like a specialist with useful skillz was with the guns. The RCAF didn't register that we existed.)

I'm not suggesting that we ditch the idea of having a few common platforms, I'm just suggesting that for support elements maybe we don't need the "best" in armour or technology. Maybe we can get away with "cheap and cheerful" a bit more often.
 
The artillery quite enjoyed having live data in the last shooting war, so they have been good to us. (Side note; the first time I was treated like a specialist with useful skillz was with the guns. The RCAF didn't register that we existed.)

I'm not suggesting that we ditch the idea of having a few common platforms, I'm just suggesting that for support elements maybe we don't need the "best" in armour or technology. Maybe we can get away with "cheap and cheerful" a bit more often.
Completely agree. The CAF needs to realize that sustainment needs continuous investment and renewal, and not constantly have feast or famine in all those fleets.
 
I'm not suggesting that we ditch the idea of having a few common platforms, I'm just suggesting that for support elements maybe we don't need …
Your complaint is about MSVS? MSVS is a support vehicle, designed for and used by supporters.
 
The backlash against bike lanes has gone international post-COVID:

Bikeless in Berlin: Europe’s cycle backlash has begun​

Conservative parties are turning cars into a major culture war issue.


BERLIN — Europe's urban cycling revolution has a flat tire.

Across the Continent, popular discontent with efforts to curb cars in cities has brought cycling into the culture wars, with politicians seizing on the issue to proclaim themselves on the side of working-class drivers.

In Berlin, the newly elected conservative city government is going further.

Since coming into power earlier this year, the governing coalition led by the center-right Christian Democratic Union (CDU) party has rolled back a host of bike-friendly measures agreed by its left-leaning predecessor, suspending all bike infrastructure projects that "endanger" existing car lanes or parking spaces and putting an ambitious plan to add thousands of kilometers to the city's cycling network on hold.

The conservatives have also rolled back the much-trumpeted pedestrianization of the iconic Friedrichstraße thoroughfare, letting cars back in at the request of local business owners who claimed the deviated traffic was hurting their bottom line.

The German capital's about-face sends a worrying signal to other bike-friendly cities feeling the heat from disgruntled car drivers.

As COVID has faded as a major concern, so too has enthusiasm for the temporary cycling infrastructure and traffic blocks put in place by cities to improve people's quality of life during lockdowns, as well as curb air pollution and bring down emissions.

While nearly 70 percent of respondents to a 2020 YouGov survey said they wanted to see restrictions on car use kept in place post-pandemic, opposition to the space given to clean mobility options like bikes has become louder as people have returned to work and regular routines.

 
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