Naval Missile Thread

[Cloud Cover]

Pretty cool thread about the RIM Talos missile development, operational use and subsequent use as a supersonic target drone.

Note the use of the missile in a land attack role to take out a radar installation during the Vietnam war.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800243771248157076

If you have similar content about Naval Missiles to share or link to, this would be the thread!

 

[Lumber]

Pretty cool thread about the RIM Talos missile development, operational use and subsequent use as a supersonic target drone.

Note the use of the missile in a land attack role to take out a radar installation during the Vietnam war.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1800243771248157076

If you have similar content about Naval Missiles to share or link to, this would be the thread!

Are you trying to get me to talk about naval missiles? Who sent you? Who do you work for?

 

[dapaterson]

Are you trying to get me to talk about naval missiles? Who sent you? Who do you work for?

An innocent question from someone looking for information on nuclear wessels.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Are you trying to get me to talk about naval missiles? Who sent you? Who do you work for?

Just the nuke codes.

 

[OldSolduer]

An innocent question from someone looking for information on nuclear wessels.

Wicktor Wickor ALPHA Zulu

 

[OceanBonfire]

Initial Operational Capability (IOC) of the Evolved SeaSparrow Missile (ESSM) Block 2 in support of the Point Defence Missile System Upgrade (PDMSU) project for the Halifax class:

Defence Materiel - ADM(Mat) | Matériel de défense - SMA(Mat) on LinkedIn: #matnewsgroup #wellequipped

#MatNewsGroup – We are thrilled to announce the Initial Operational Capability (IOC) of the Evolved SeaSparrow Missile (ESSM) Block 2 in support of the Point…

www.linkedin.com

 

[Underway]

Funny that missile has been on ships deploying for over a year now. But officially we are now at IOC?

 

[daftandbarmy]

Funny that missile has been on ships deploying for over a year now. But officially we are now at IOC?

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Another article from Naval News on the ESSM Block 2 achieving IOC.

Canada achieves IOC for ESSM Block 2 aboard Halifax-class frigates - Naval News

Canada announced IOC of the Evolved SeaSparrow Missile (ESSM) Block 2 in support of the Point Defence Missile System Upgrade (PDMSU) project.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Cloud Cover]

US Army strikes moving target at sea in Pacific Ocean during exercise Valiant Shield using PrSM- Canada (RCN HMCS Montreal) is involved in this exercise…

TLDR- “June 16, 2024 3d Multi-Domain Task Force and 1-181 Field Artillery Regiment of the Tennessee National Guard employed the U.S. Army Autonomous Multi-Domain Launcher (AML) and two Precision Strike Missiles (PrSM) as part of the Valiant Shield 24 Combined Joint SINKEX. The AML and PrSMs engaged a maritime target alongside other joint assets during the SINKEX. The VS24 SINKEX is the first employment of both the AML and the PrSM outside of the U.S and is a significant milestone in the U.S. Army’s continuing development of long-range fires capabilities.

U.S. Army Conducts First Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile SINKEX using PrSM - Naval News

The U.S. Army successfully used two Precision Strike Missiles (PrSM) against a moving target at sea, marking a first...

www.navalnews.com

U.S. Army Conducts First Anti-Ship Ballistic Missile SINKEX using PrSM - Naval News

The U.S. Army successfully used two Precision Strike Missiles (PrSM) against a moving target at sea, marking a first...

www.navalnews.com

PrSM

The Lockheed Martin PrSM has an objective range of 60 to 650 kilometers (37 to 403 miles). It is a surface-to-surface, all-weather, precision-strike guided missile, fired from both the M270A1 Multiple Launch Rocket System (MLRS) and M142 High-Mobility Artillery Rocket System (HIMARS). As the replacement for the MGM-140 Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS), PrSM doubles ATACMS’ current rate-of-fire with two missiles per launch pod. It is designed to attack threat air defense systems, missile launchers, command and control (C2) nodes, troop assembly/staging areas and high-payoff targets throughout the battlefield at ranges of more than 500 kilometers.

A multi-mode seeker is used for engaging moving land and maritime targets. Future Increments of PrSM will include:

• Multi-domain operations capability to engage moving land and maritime targets;
• Enhanced lethality payloads capable of autonomously and collaboratively detecting, targeting, and striking high payoff targets that are moving, have moved, poorly located, or dispersed;
• Extended range capability enabled through air-breathing ramjet propulsion

 

[Cloud Cover]

I know a couple of people have theorized that the CSC could potentially be equipped with RUM 139C type system in the Mk 41 VLS. This would be in addition to the TLS near the almighty mission bay.

However, it appears that the US is riding down production of the RUM 139 series, so the UK is now on the hunt for a missile to carry the StingRay or Future Lightweight Torpedo, and they are suggesting a production run of 500 missiles for cost analysis purposes. These are missiles only and not the torpedo carried by the missile.

Royal Navy considers purchase of vertical launch anti-submarine rocket | Navy Lookout

www.navylookout.com

To that end, I'm sure the USN is working or at least thinking about a VLS replacement for the RUM 139 series, but there's not a lot out there that is OS.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Well if this works out it maybe a very useful tool in a Pacific conflict.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1816451540334374975

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Well, it looks to me as a missile resupply at sea system. You got the replacement missile successfully transferred from the supply vessel to the fighting vessel at the heavy jackstay station dump.

Now what?

How do you move it once onboard the cruiser/destroyer/frigate to where it has to be and then, how do you raise it and lower it into position ( and what the heck do you do with the expended missile container???), the whole in sea state 2, 3 or 4, or even higher?

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Well, it looks to me as a missile resupply at sea system. You got the replacement missile successfully transferred from the supply vessel to the fighting vessel at the heavy jackstay station dump.

Now what?

How do you move it once onboard the cruiser/destroyer/frigate to where it has to be and then, how do you raise it and lower it into position ( and what the heck do you do with the expended missile container???), the whole in sea state 2, 3 or 4, or even higher?

All missile boats will carry a Western Union rig

 

[NavyShooter]

Ah, what's old is new again....

Observe my less than exactly perfect rendition in 1/96 scale on my 3D printed Liberty Ship.

I'll note, I'm not that good at rigging...so...you get what you get. From a distance it looks the part.

Having been a part of missile loading evolutions alongside, I would be hesitant to do this at sea. Doing a Heavy Jackstay to transfer the cannister is one thing. Yanking the empty and putting in a new one at sea would be - stressful.

I've watched the US loading BGM-109's into an Arleigh Burke - the speed of the evolution was amazing to me. They loaded a cannister every 5-7 minutes - including removing the fired cell.

 

[Underway]

Well, it looks to me as a missile resupply at sea system. You got the replacement missile successfully transferred from the supply vessel to the fighting vessel at the heavy jackstay station dump.

Now what?

How do you move it once onboard the cruiser/destroyer/frigate to where it has to be and then, how do you raise it and lower it into position ( and what the heck do you do with the expended missile container???), the whole in sea state 2, 3 or 4, or even higher?

Missing the whole image from the receiving ship side. But basically you need to install a tram system on the receiving ship. Which will then rotate and load the missiles.

US Navy set to trial VLS reloading system at sea - Naval News

U.S. Navy Tests Underway VLS Reloading Mechanism - Naval News



A lot safer for the receiving ship compared to the old way of transferring missiles...

 

[FSTO]

Missing the whole image from the receiving ship side. But basically you need to install a tram system on the receiving ship. Which will then rotate and load the missiles.

US Navy set to trial VLS reloading system at sea - Naval News

U.S. Navy Tests Underway VLS Reloading Mechanism - Naval News

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A lot safer for the receiving ship compared to the old way of transferring missiles...

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Oh boy, the storage and maintenance issues of that system could be endless.

 

[Oldgateboatdriver]

Well, so far it seems to work in sea state zero.

A lot safer for the receiving ship compared to the old way of transferring missiles...

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[Underway]

Well, so far it seems to work in sea state zero.

Gotta start somewhere. I'm just as worried about the wind as I am the sea state. So many ammunition evolutions canceled because of wind even while alongside the jetty.

 

[Cloud Cover]

This image is floating around and as I pointed out on X, there doesn’t seem to be a pilot or wso visible. Of course, they could be short pilots but I doubt it.
The 4 missiles appear to be SM6 modified for air launch and is designated AIM 174B by the USN.

I suppose next will be an F35B or C with similar configuration, or a drone.