Pay increments

[dunkski]

Hello,

I am hoping someone can help me...I have found many documents explaining the pay scales but I haven't found any information that tells me when you move up pay increments. For example: when would one move from Private Pay Increment 1: $2484/month to Private Pay Increment 2: $3038/month etc. Is it based upon when you finish BMQ/SQ etc or are the pay increments based upon years of service?

Thanks in advance!

Chris.

 

[Teflon]

After each year in rank

 

[dunkski]

Thanks Teflon!

 

[Teflon]

Always willing to help when I can

 

[medaid]

Keep in mind that each 'year' in rank differs.

So, in your Pte ranks, it moves up on the anniversary of your enrollment date, because that's the day you became a Pte.
Once you get promoted, it goes up on the anniversary of your PROMOTION date, and these will vary.

 

[dunkski]

Thanks for the clarification MedTech.

 

[PO2FinClk]

CBI & CFAO 204 explain all these in great detail.

 

[Michael OLeary]

CBI & CFAO 204 explain all these in great detail.

The original poster, and others who find this thread, may have absolutely no ideas what a "CBI" or a "CFAO" might be.  Please provide links and explanations where possible.

Thank you

Army.ca Staff

 

[Dog]

What is the requirement for a reserve promotion? If you are a private, who just finished his 3's, but has more than 365 days of service, are you eligible for promotion to corporal? Or do you have to serve for another 2 years on class A as a trained private in order to be promoted?

I've poked around on the DND website and have found numerous things talking about accelerated promotions, and promotions in general, but nothing specific enough to answer the above question. Anybody know for sure? Anybody have an EDUCATED guess?

 

[medaid]

Two years from the time you were a private. Another words the instant you enrolled, complete your required courses for promotion, and as long as you've served 2 years as a Pte, you are eligible.

Remember this just makes you eligible for promotion. This does NOT mean you will be promoted.

 

[PO2FinClk]

For those not aware of what CBI or CFAO stands for or where to find them, refer to this thread (found at the very top of the Mil Admin Forum): http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/60485.0.html

Promotion Criteria's:
Reg Force NCM's: CFAO 49-4 http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/admfincs/subjects/cfao/049-04_e.asp
Res Force NCM's" CFAO 49-5 http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/admfincs/subjects/cfao/049-05_e.asp

Pay Policy:
QR&O 204's: http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/qr_o/vol3/Ch204_e.asp#204.015
CBI 204's: http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/cbi/engraph/home_e.asp?sidesection=6
CFAO 204-2 is one, search listing under "Pay": http://www.admfincs.forces.gc.ca/admfincs/subjects/cfao/toc_e.asp

 

[Dog]

I guess the next question I have is; what is the equivalent of 2 years in the reserves? Is it actually 2 years of weekends and evenings? Or is there a certain number of total days that equals 2 reserve years?
This will affect how quickly I will apply for a CT, if I can get promoted and get a class B, and snag a few more career courses, then I'll stay with my unit (for a while) if not, then back to the regs I go!

 

[Pte AJB]

I guess the next question I have is; what is the equivalent of 2 years in the reserves? Is it actually 2 years of weekends and evenings? Or is there a certain number of total days that equals 2 reserve years?
This will affect how quickly I will apply for a CT, if I can get promoted and get a class B, and snag a few more career courses, then I'll stay with my unit (for a while) if not, then back to the regs I go!

Two years in the reserves is calculated from your enrollment date. if you enrolled June 1, 2005 you would be eligible for promotion to Corporal today. However, ranks and courses are not 100% transferable. I know two MCpl. types, both attempted to CT one was offered a position as a Pte. and the other a Cpl. It come down to individual experience (courses, tours, etc.) . I believe it is minimum four years to become a Cpl. in reg force, while it is two in the reserves, so you can see how the experience level differs between the two. However, in terms of pay scale the CF will never pay you less than what you were earning in a previous rank. If you are say, a reserve Cpl. then a transfer to the regs as a Pte. would not entail a reduction in salary. 

 

[geo]

... two years as the crow flies.
- no consideration for full time / part time
- one
- two
pass your course and there you go!

 

[Dog]

Humph.... that's too bad. Back to the regs I go!

Well, thanks for the response.

 

[Civvymedic]

What if under some circumstances you were granted QL3 after basic or something similar. As in my case, I'm a civilian Advanced Care Paramedic, 10 years in practice who may be given some standing.

Would I start at the 2484 a month or a higher pay grade after basic or still be required to wait for anniversary dates before moving up the pay chart?

Thanks.

 

[kratz]

For those not aware of what CBI or CFAO stands for or where to find them, refer to this thread (found at the very top of the Mil Admin Forum): http://forums.navy.ca/forums/threads/60485.0.html

In addition to the references that PO2FinClk posted, anyone in the Naval Reserve also needs to refer MARCORD 9-1, Vol 1 with respect to attending the minimum (and maximum) number of training days for the ICP.

 

[medaid]

You would come in as semi-skilled. You would most likely start off at a Cpl rank. Yes to anniversary dates. It's the way EVERYONE's promotion and pay increments move. No exceptions.

 

[Civvymedic]

Thanks MED TECH

Big role to fill starting out with rank. How would a civilian medic be received coming in like that? I guess it depends on the individual.

So would you start out with Privates pay or be paid to your rank as a Corporal?

 

[CrazyCanuck]

I've been wondering, are there any circumstances under which a reserve pte would be promoted to a cpl before 2 years in?