"RCMP unit that helps flag threats to PM faces 'numerous challenges': internal report"

[The Bread Guy]

This from MSM ....

RCMP unit that helps flag threats to PM faces 'numerous challenges': internal report

OTTAWA - Members of an RCMP unit that helps to protect the prime minister and other public figures face a risk of burnout due to a heavy workload and limited

www.thecanadianpressnews.ca

... and this from the RCMP info-machine (PDF of summary and full report also attached)

Evaluation of the Implementation of the Protective Behavioural Analysis Unit - Final Report - Open Government Portal

The evaluation conducted by RCMP National Program Evaluation Services examined the implementation of the Protective Behavioural Analysis Unit (PBAU). The objective of the evaluation was to examine...

open.canada.ca

From The Canadian Press:

Members of an RCMP unit that helps to protect the prime minister and other public figures face a risk of burnout due to a heavy workload and limited resources, says a newly released internal evaluation report.

The Protective Behavioural Analysis Unit "has faced numerous challenges" since its inception in 2020 and program implementation remains "incomplete and inefficient," says the report compiled by RCMP reviewers.

The unit is "not sustainable" in its current form and the RCMP must address issues related to mandate, structure and workload "in both the immediate and longer term" to help the unit survive and thrive, the report concludes.

The unit provides operational support to the RCMP's protective services and uses behavioural science methods to assess risk in order to prevent violence ...

 

[brihard]

Well, now that PMJT stepped down, I’m sure they’ll be able to relax and take a bit of a breather for the next few months, right?

checks news

Oh.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Well, now that PMJT stepped down, I’m sure they’ll be able to relax and take a bit of a breather for the next few months, right?

checks news

Oh.

I do think people have the same disdain for Carney as they did for the great son prince.

Yet.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Well, now that PMJT stepped down, I’m sure they’ll be able to relax and take a bit of a breather for the next few months, right?

checks news

Oh.

Speaking of which. Have they pulled trudeau's full security detail and his 12 car convoys? He is entitled to no more than a junior MP. Which I believe is nothing.

 

[brihard]

Speaking of which. Have they pulled trudeau's full security detail and his 12 car convoys? He is entitled to no more than a junior MP. Which I believe is nothing.

I know enough to say that protective services are threat based and intelligence driven, and are scaled to what’s assessed as necessary for a particular individual at a particular time.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I know enough to say that protective services are threat based and intelligence driven, and are scaled to what’s assessed as necessary for a particular individual at a particular time.

So, I'm going to guess we're still paying for his security. Perhaps the RCMP are strapped because they are protecting two PMs instead of one.

In your experience, do we protect parliamentarians after they are out of government?

 

[brihard]

So, I'm going to guess we're still paying for his security. Perhaps the RCMP are strapped because they are protecting two PMs instead of one.

In your experience, do we protect parliamentarians after they are out of government?

That’s not at all my area of policing, but there’s a fair bit of open source info about former PMs still being provided security. The Gargoyle - Harper can keep scaled-down RCMP protective detail

 

[suffolkowner]

That’s not at all my area of policing, but there’s a fair bit of open source info about former PMs still being provided security. The Gargoyle - Harper can keep scaled-down RCMP protective detail

going forward it may become the norm. We are a long way from the era of Clark and Turner

 

[brihard]

going forward it may become the norm. We are a long way from the era of Clark and Turner

Pretty sure it’s been a norm for a while.

 

[daftandbarmy]

So, I'm going to guess we're still paying for his security. Perhaps the RCMP are strapped because they are protecting two PMs instead of one.

In your experience, do we protect parliamentarians after they are out of government?

FWIW, having to be 'protected' full time isn't a great way to live your life just in case anyone's thinking it's an awesome perk

 

[QV]

It’s not society, it’s the PM. When a PM is as divisive and hated as this last guy, it probably doesn't take a great deal of effort to discern there will be more threats.

Easy solution is just don’t be a XXXX.

 

[Remius]

It’s not society, it’s the PM. When a PM is as divisive and hated as this last guy, it probably doesn't take a great deal of effort to discern there will be more threats.

Easy solution is just don’t be a XXXX.

I’m curious as to what you think the last PM or any PM has done or said that merits something like death threats or attempts on his life.

Then maybe we can define if it is society or the PM.

 

[The Bread Guy]

It’s not society, it’s the PM. When a PM is as divisive and hated as this last guy, it probably doesn't take a great deal of effort to discern there will be more threats.

Easy solution is just don’t be a XXXX.

And how do you think this guy was a XXXX, exactly?

Irwin Cotler under 24-hour police protection due to threat to his life

Former justice minister and human-rights advocate criticized many foreign governments, including Russia, China, Iran and North Korea, in a Globe and Mail column last month

www.theglobeandmail.com

 

[Bruce Monkhouse]

It’s not society, it’s the PM. When a PM is as divisive and hated as this last guy, it probably doesn't take a great deal of effort to discern there will be more threats.

Easy solution is just don’t be a XXXX.

There is so much you get wrong........I want the next PM to be a "xxxx" and start trying to save our financial future.

 

[The Bread Guy]

....I want the next PM to be a "xxxx" and start trying to save our financial future.

Not to mention there's being a complete and nothing-but XXXX, and being a XXXX in a surgically specific way in certain situations, right?

 

[Jarnhamar]

Wordle vibes

 

[OldSolduer]

Not to mention there's being a complete and nothing-but XXXX, and being a XXXX in a surgically specific way in certain situations, right?

The specific XXXX is preferable - when some half baked group wants our money for the half XXXXing baked idea and the XXXX tells them to f8ck off.

 

[Eaglelord17]

I wonder if it’s a case of there actually being more of a threat or rather it seeming like there is more of a threat.

Before the internet threats and such would have mostly just been confined to a few people, generally at bars. Now thanks to the internet anyone can make a comment and it can be seen anywhere else.

I have a very hard time believing that people didn’t say much worse in the past, just that it was generally ignored.

 

[Remius]

I wonder if it’s a case of there actually being more of a threat or rather it seeming like there is more of a threat.

Before the internet threats and such would have mostly just been confined to a few people, generally at bars. Now thanks to the internet anyone can make a comment and it can be seen anywhere else.

I have a very hard time believing that people didn’t say much worse in the past, just that it was generally ignored.

Ignored or just not heard and reported? And how many are egged on by mass support or perception of mass support?

 

[lenaitch]

The PM Protection Detail is a unit within the RCMPs Protective Policing Service which is tasked with security of the PM, GG, and other public officials such as MPs, Senators and federal/SC judges. Outside of the dedicated details, the level of security is informed by the threat profile.

I can certainly imagine the staffing pressure on the Protective Service has increased; there are a lot of crazies out there - of all stripes. A threat made on the Internet gets instant worldwide exposure and support.

In Ontario, the OPP's Lt. Gov. protective detail has been described as shopping with your grandmother, but when Hillary Weston was LG the threat and protective protocols were elevated because of IRA concerns.

I used to know the security level guidelines the RCMP uses. If I recall correctly there were either six or seven that were the basis then modified for the circumstances. Level One was basically handing the person a business card and 'saying give me a call if you have any concerns', right up to closed-road movements, ground-stopped airports, secured sites and venues, etc. Even the configuration of a motorcade was driven by the protection level. Back when I assisted in security details, the only figures that received the highest level of protection by virtue of their office were the Queen/King, POTUS and the Pope.