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Ladies and Gent's this is our warning order from DND about our pension and I have locked the topic as it is a informational bulliten
Those of us with over 20 yrs by the look's of it have to hunt for our record of service.
I tried to fit the word document,for give me for any mistake's.
Read all of my post very carefully,it explain's what record's have been kept pre 96 and what records you must submit tp prove your record of service to buy back time for your pension.
For those of us with over 20 yrs in,if the record's are not on your Pers. file you have to apply to collections canada and the web link is provided.
NOTE: It may be that although they say your records has been uploaded - its up to you to prove it....... note they also say we don;t believe your T4 slips
I know for me to buy all my time back will be a pretty penny. :
For you newbies pay into the pension plan and buy back you time.
Record of Reserve Service/Earnings - Purchase of Prior Reserve Service/Earnings
1. Changes to the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) are expected to occur as of the CF Pension Plan ‘Coming Into Force’ (CIF) date. It is anticipated that members may be able to purchase prior pensionable earnings/service in order to enhance their pension value, increase protection for their survivors, and to augment their pensionable service, potentially allowing for an earlier retirement.
2. The ‘Pension Services’ section will require pensionable service and earnings documentation to validate reserve service/earnings for members who are electing to purchase prior reserve service/earnings.
3. It should be noted that CFSA pensionable income differs from taxable income and Canada Pension Plan income. As such, T-4 and Canada Pension Plan statements, while a good guideline for personal estimate purposes, are not acceptable in the determination of ‘prior pensionable service and earnings’.
4. In order to be administratively prepared at CIF, anticipated to be 1 March 2007, it is recommended that CF members with previous reserve service start their research to acquire the necessary records as soon as possible. A source document checklist (Annex A) has been created to assist the CF member in his/her research.
5. It is suggested that CF members should start their research efforts with the acquisition of any archived records which may apply to them. As a result of archiving guidelines currently in effect, many pay and attendance records prior to the automation of reserve pay may have been sent to Library and Archives Canada (LAC) by the various reserve units and headquarters. It is recommended that members visit the following LAC website for the procedure required to request military service information (index subject: CF after 1918) http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html and complete the following LAC application for military service information http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/022/f2/022-909.007-e.pdf
6. Further guidelines on this subject may be promulgated after Treasury Board approval of the regulations.
EARNINGS/SERVICE SOURCE COMMENT
CLASS A The following source documentation is of primary importance for Pension Services to correctly establish applicable CF Service upon the election by a member to purchase prior service.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server from 1999 to present day (Current Reserve Pay System) The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (from before 1999) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves archive server (from before 1999) including Interim Reserve Pay and Personnel System (Primary Reserve Atlantic) The member is not required to provide this information. The data is available to Pension Services for validation and input into the Pension Module. Pre 1999 data consists of employment data from RPSR implementation (1996-1997) to 1999.
Reserve Data System Reserve Attendance Log Listing An existing imaged copy that is not clearly legible is undergoing restoration. It is recommended that members seek other sources of class A attendance information. Restoration efforts are not expected to be completed by the Coming Into Force date.
SIS RC Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
CADIS Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
CF 1399 Pay Account Class A Reserves (before Reserve Data System) This information should be on the member's Pers File. Alternatively, units may have archived the Pers File in which case, the member will have to request copies from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
DND 1356 Yearly Report of Attendance - Cadet Instructors Cadre The member can obtain copies from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment or from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
The following source documentation may be submitted to Pension Services if the information from the above list cannot be acquired.
CF 896 Reserve Force Unit Attendance Record This record should be on the member's Pers File however, it may not include service performed outside of the unit (Militia Training Center). Alternatively, units may have archived the Pers File in which case, the member will have to request copies from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
DND 1355 Yearly Attendance Register - Cadet Instructors Cadre
CF 898 Reserve Force Route Letter and Attendance Report - Class A If the CF 896 is not available, Pension Services will accept the CF 898. The CF 898 must have been certified in Part 6.
CF 895 Reserve Force - Basic Attendance Register If the CF 896 is not available, Pension Services will accept the CF 895. The CF 895 must have been certified.
EARNINGS/SERVICE SOURCE COMMENT
CLASS B The following source documentation is of primary importance for Pension Services to correctly establish applicable CF Service upon the election by a member to purchase prior service.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server from 1999 to present day (Current Reserve Pay System) The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (from before 1999) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves archive server (from before 1999) including Interim Reserve Pay and Personnel System (Primary Reserve Atlantic) The member is not required to provide this information. The data is available to Pension Services for validation and input into the Pension Module. Pre 1999 data consists of employment data from RPSR implementation (1996-1997) to 1999
CF 886 Pay Account - Class B Reserves For those members belonging to Atlantic Units from 1992 to 1997, there is no requirement to provide this information as the data is available for Pension Services to validate and input into the Pension Module. In all other cases, the member may request copies from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
SIS B Land Forces Quebec Area Class B application (1993 to 1997) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
SIS RC Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
CADIS Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
The following source documentation may be submitted to Pension Services if the information from the above list cannot be acquired.
CF 899 Reserve Force - Route Letter and Attendance Report for Class B If the CF 886 is not available, Pension Services will accept the CF 899 must have been certified in Part 6.
Human Resources Management System (PeopleSoft) Member's Personnel Record Resume indicating periods of Class B Service.
CF 1007 Statement of Reserve Force Service This document is not available to those members who have not released from the CF. It will be accepted by Pension Services for those members who have re-enrolled.
EARNINGS/SERVICE SOURCE COMMENT
CLASS C The following source documentation is of primary importance for Pension Services to correctly establish applicable CF Service upon the election by a member to purchase prior service.
Central Computation Pay System The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (1999 to present day) ***For Class "CB" only. The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (before 1999) ***For Class "CB" only. The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves archive server (from before 1999) including Interim Reserve Pay and Personnel System (Primary Reserve Atlantic) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate. Pre 1999 data consists of employment data from RPSR implementation (1996-1997) to 1999
The following source documentation may be submitted to Pension Services if the information from the above list cannot be acquired.
Human Resources Management System (PeopleSoft) Member's Personnel Record Resume indicating periods of Class C Service.
Class C Employment and Termination messages
CF 1007 Statement of Reserve Force Service This document is not available to those members who have not released from the CF. It will be accepted by Pension Services for those members who have re-enrolled.
Those of us with over 20 yrs by the look's of it have to hunt for our record of service.
I tried to fit the word document,for give me for any mistake's.
Read all of my post very carefully,it explain's what record's have been kept pre 96 and what records you must submit tp prove your record of service to buy back time for your pension.
For those of us with over 20 yrs in,if the record's are not on your Pers. file you have to apply to collections canada and the web link is provided.
NOTE: It may be that although they say your records has been uploaded - its up to you to prove it....... note they also say we don;t believe your T4 slips
I know for me to buy all my time back will be a pretty penny. :
For you newbies pay into the pension plan and buy back you time.
Record of Reserve Service/Earnings - Purchase of Prior Reserve Service/Earnings
1. Changes to the Canadian Forces Superannuation Act (CFSA) are expected to occur as of the CF Pension Plan ‘Coming Into Force’ (CIF) date. It is anticipated that members may be able to purchase prior pensionable earnings/service in order to enhance their pension value, increase protection for their survivors, and to augment their pensionable service, potentially allowing for an earlier retirement.
2. The ‘Pension Services’ section will require pensionable service and earnings documentation to validate reserve service/earnings for members who are electing to purchase prior reserve service/earnings.
3. It should be noted that CFSA pensionable income differs from taxable income and Canada Pension Plan income. As such, T-4 and Canada Pension Plan statements, while a good guideline for personal estimate purposes, are not acceptable in the determination of ‘prior pensionable service and earnings’.
4. In order to be administratively prepared at CIF, anticipated to be 1 March 2007, it is recommended that CF members with previous reserve service start their research to acquire the necessary records as soon as possible. A source document checklist (Annex A) has been created to assist the CF member in his/her research.
5. It is suggested that CF members should start their research efforts with the acquisition of any archived records which may apply to them. As a result of archiving guidelines currently in effect, many pay and attendance records prior to the automation of reserve pay may have been sent to Library and Archives Canada (LAC) by the various reserve units and headquarters. It is recommended that members visit the following LAC website for the procedure required to request military service information (index subject: CF after 1918) http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html and complete the following LAC application for military service information http://www.collectionscanada.ca/obj/022/f2/022-909.007-e.pdf
6. Further guidelines on this subject may be promulgated after Treasury Board approval of the regulations.
EARNINGS/SERVICE SOURCE COMMENT
CLASS A The following source documentation is of primary importance for Pension Services to correctly establish applicable CF Service upon the election by a member to purchase prior service.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server from 1999 to present day (Current Reserve Pay System) The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (from before 1999) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves archive server (from before 1999) including Interim Reserve Pay and Personnel System (Primary Reserve Atlantic) The member is not required to provide this information. The data is available to Pension Services for validation and input into the Pension Module. Pre 1999 data consists of employment data from RPSR implementation (1996-1997) to 1999.
Reserve Data System Reserve Attendance Log Listing An existing imaged copy that is not clearly legible is undergoing restoration. It is recommended that members seek other sources of class A attendance information. Restoration efforts are not expected to be completed by the Coming Into Force date.
SIS RC Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
CADIS Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
CF 1399 Pay Account Class A Reserves (before Reserve Data System) This information should be on the member's Pers File. Alternatively, units may have archived the Pers File in which case, the member will have to request copies from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
DND 1356 Yearly Report of Attendance - Cadet Instructors Cadre The member can obtain copies from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment or from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
The following source documentation may be submitted to Pension Services if the information from the above list cannot be acquired.
CF 896 Reserve Force Unit Attendance Record This record should be on the member's Pers File however, it may not include service performed outside of the unit (Militia Training Center). Alternatively, units may have archived the Pers File in which case, the member will have to request copies from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at
http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
DND 1355 Yearly Attendance Register - Cadet Instructors Cadre
CF 898 Reserve Force Route Letter and Attendance Report - Class A If the CF 896 is not available, Pension Services will accept the CF 898. The CF 898 must have been certified in Part 6.
CF 895 Reserve Force - Basic Attendance Register If the CF 896 is not available, Pension Services will accept the CF 895. The CF 895 must have been certified.
EARNINGS/SERVICE SOURCE COMMENT
CLASS B The following source documentation is of primary importance for Pension Services to correctly establish applicable CF Service upon the election by a member to purchase prior service.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server from 1999 to present day (Current Reserve Pay System) The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (from before 1999) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves archive server (from before 1999) including Interim Reserve Pay and Personnel System (Primary Reserve Atlantic) The member is not required to provide this information. The data is available to Pension Services for validation and input into the Pension Module. Pre 1999 data consists of employment data from RPSR implementation (1996-1997) to 1999
CF 886 Pay Account - Class B Reserves For those members belonging to Atlantic Units from 1992 to 1997, there is no requirement to provide this information as the data is available for Pension Services to validate and input into the Pension Module. In all other cases, the member may request copies from Library and Archives Canada (LAC). LAC information request procedure is located at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/genealogy/022-909.007-e.html
SIS B Land Forces Quebec Area Class B application (1993 to 1997) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
SIS RC Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
CADIS Cadet Pay Application For data before 1999, a certified report of earnings/service from the Regional Cadet Support Establishment will be accepted.
The following source documentation may be submitted to Pension Services if the information from the above list cannot be acquired.
CF 899 Reserve Force - Route Letter and Attendance Report for Class B If the CF 886 is not available, Pension Services will accept the CF 899 must have been certified in Part 6.
Human Resources Management System (PeopleSoft) Member's Personnel Record Resume indicating periods of Class B Service.
CF 1007 Statement of Reserve Force Service This document is not available to those members who have not released from the CF. It will be accepted by Pension Services for those members who have re-enrolled.
EARNINGS/SERVICE SOURCE COMMENT
CLASS C The following source documentation is of primary importance for Pension Services to correctly establish applicable CF Service upon the election by a member to purchase prior service.
Central Computation Pay System The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (1999 to present day) ***For Class "CB" only. The member is not required to provide this information. This has already been validated and will be uploaded to the Pension Module automatically.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves production server (before 1999) ***For Class "CB" only. The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate.
Revised Pay System for the Reserves archive server (from before 1999) including Interim Reserve Pay and Personnel System (Primary Reserve Atlantic) The member is not required to provide this information. The applicable data has already been uploaded to the Pension Module for Pension Services to validate. Pre 1999 data consists of employment data from RPSR implementation (1996-1997) to 1999
The following source documentation may be submitted to Pension Services if the information from the above list cannot be acquired.
Human Resources Management System (PeopleSoft) Member's Personnel Record Resume indicating periods of Class C Service.
Class C Employment and Termination messages
CF 1007 Statement of Reserve Force Service This document is not available to those members who have not released from the CF. It will be accepted by Pension Services for those members who have re-enrolled.
