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What is seen cannot be unseen....Eye In The Sky said:Good grief. I did it again. I let myself read the comments section. :facepalm:
What is seen cannot be unseen....Eye In The Sky said:Good grief. I did it again. I let myself read the comments section. :facepalm:
Jim Seggie said:Why is it that doctors, lawyers, social welfare workers and many others are given a free pass when they make grievous errors?
Fiera said:Because Doctors and Lawyers at least, I don't know about welfare workers, have a form of malpractice insurance that will pay out a ridiculous amount of money upon threat of being sued to have the entire issue swept under the table.
Why is it that doctors, lawyers, social welfare workers and many others are given a free pass when they make grievous errors? There are exceptions - occassionally you see people stripped of the privilege of practicing medicine or law.
Protesters on the coast of Labrador and in St. John's on Thursday evening called for improved military search and rescue services as a result of the military's response to the search for Burton Winters .... In St. John's, dozens of protesters gathered on Confederation Hill, singing in his honour and holding up protest signs. "We understand that Burton will never come home," choked a teary Stephanie Fost, Winters' aunt. "However we would like for future Burtons to have the fighting chance to return home to their loving friends and family." Protests were also held Thursday night in Nain and Natuashish ....
.... A full investigation has now been completed. We have a much greater understanding of the timeline and the way that these tragic events unfolded. Both the RCMP and Canadian Forces officials have explained some of these circumstances. There are improvements that can be made perhaps in protocol and we are in a constant state of update and improvement .... Our country has the largest search and rescue territory on the planet. We have dedicated SAR techs who do their best each and every time. As officials said yesterday and the member has just repeated, the weather in Makkovik was a factor when the first call came in. It impacted on officials' decisions as to when to dispatch aircraft. As explained by Admiral Gardam yesterday, the weather was an issue. The first call came 20 hours after this young man had apparently left his home. A second call came some 51 hours later.
Grimaldus said:Did they discover what the teenager was doing out there?
The Western StarThe 14-year-old died last week after becoming lost on the ice near his home in Makkovick, Labrador while heading to his grandmother’s house on snowmobile.
CBCRCMP said Winters had walked for 19 kilometres through rough snow and jagged ice, after he abandoned his snowmobile. He was about seven kilometres from shore, although police said his tracks showed that the path was following the shoreline. His snowmobile was found about 11.5 kilometres outside Makkovik.
NFLD Sapper said:A series of protests in St. John's and in several Labrador communities have called forimproved military search and rescue services.
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ballz said:That one is an opinion piece, and being from the west coast of Newfoundland I don't trust many of the people that write their opinions into the Western Star to be credible sources, and the CBC one doesn't say what he was doing (well at least not the part you quoted).
That was a long way from home out on a snowmobile, alone and not equipped (for anybody, let alone a 14 year old) and I still think the parents owe just as many answers as the Canadian Forces or DND.
DND Info-machine, 8 Mar 12At the request of the Minister of National Defence, the Honourable Peter MacKay, the Canadian Forces conducted a review of Canadian Forces protocols with regards to Ground Search and Rescue. The legal authority for Ground Search and Rescue (GSAR), including the response for missing or lost persons, belongs to provincial and territorial governments, and as such, the Canadian Forces reviewed its protocols in consultation with partner agencies. The review is now complete and the Department of National Defence has amended the protocol for its participation in support of Ground Search and Rescue (GSAR) operations. The amended protocol provides an additional layer of diligence, with all parties agreeing to implement a military feedback mechanism, to increase direct communications between agencies, to enhance situational awareness and to improve communication between GSAR partners.
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There are provisions for the Canadian Forces (CF) to assist GSAR operations through the provisions of search and rescue aircraft. In general, the use of CF aircraft in GSAR operations is reserved for instances when no other option is available, or when the requirements of the search are beyond the means of provincially secured assets. In this way the CF can remain postured to respond to its primary SAR mandate, namely aeronautical and maritime SAR events.
The new protocol was recommended following a recent meeting led by Fire and Emergency Services Newfoundland (FES-NL), to discuss interagency coordination in GSAR events. Participation included FES-NL and representatives from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP), Royal Newfoundland Constabulary (RNC), Newfoundland Department of Justice (DOJ) and members from the Joint Rescue Coordination Centre (JRCC) in Halifax ....
The Department of National Defence is changing how the military handles search and rescue calls following the tragic death of a teenage Labrador snowmobiler.
Military officials will no longer wait for a call back from anyone needing assistance in a search ....
Jim Seggie said:Are we going to see a crucifixion? That is what the Fifth Estate does.
Damn the facts!! Full speed ahead!!