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ObedientiaZelum said:A fair chance? People have a fair chance between the time they decide they want to join the army and the day they leave for basic training. Why on earth should we pay someone to get in shape for months or even years if they don't have the basic capability to do it on their own?
Were you expecting the staff to give you a pass since you only failed by a little bit because you were sick?
No not at all. I asked to do the test again the next day, or even Wednesday, 2 days from then. They said no... and "Oh sorry, our closest available vacancy for the PT Test is at the end of next month."
But what I'm saying is that for the Reg Force, Warrior Platoon is a "second chance" stage, for people that may be congested for one day/off day/not familiar with the Standardized Push Up Form, etc. as everyone has one. I'm not saying give them a freebie pass (that's just ridiculous).
Journeyman said:It's "silly and unfair" to ask people to do proper pushups....because they can't do as many if they have to be done properly?
You know it's a test, right?
You're given a date for the PT test. You're given a sheet with the standards by age and gender. Nothing explaining "The pushups must be conduct in this form..." No diagrams. You go in expecting that any old form of push-up will count. A wider stance of push-up while easier, is the generic one people are taught in school during gym class and is recognized commonly by the average person. You get into the PT Test and the Invigilator explains and demonstrates the expect forms of the test, they then explain "Any push ups not done in this form will not count." How do you expect people with no prior knowledge, to go into a test and be capable of something they've never known and trained for? There was a guy in there during my first test who wasn't Captain Fitness but was well prepared. Had never done a push up in that form and struggled with it and missed the threshold by 2 push ups because of "improper form". How is it fair to expect someone to be proficient in something they've never been taught and trained for?
That's like throwing a Pte. fresh out of Initial Phase training into a tank for his Gunnery Qual. and say "This is your gunnery test. Go." Same concept: How can you expect someone to be proficient in something they don't know?
Edit: I'm not talking about giving Tub o' Guts a bye and end up floating in the training system, getting paid, and then effectively sent home for being a piss poor candidate.