CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[brihard]

‘I respect that’: Trump comments on Ford suspending electricity surcharge

Donald Trump says he respects Doug Ford’s decision to suspend Ontario’s surcharge on electricity, saying ‘there’s a very strong man in Canada.’

www.ctvnews.ca

LOL.

Wow. That’s a bit of an olive branch, I think.

I think Trump’s elevating Ford so that he can be seen to deal with him without lowering himself.

And also, and I’m just spitballing here - if that dealing goes OK, watch Trump start talking about “Prime Minister Ford” to undermine Carney in the election.

 

[brihard]

And I now know how seductive a pineapple can be...

We all have scars from watching Téléfrançais as kids, but yours are worse.

 

[KevinB]

Are you as sure that the new CJCS will be true to the Constitution? Or fuckwit PH?

No, but I just need to have faith in 3 colors and their personnel

 

[dapaterson]

We all have scars from watching Téléfrançais as kids, but yours are worse.

If you don't know the story of Cabaret then Pineapple may not resonate.

"What would you do?"

The entire show is a metaphorical kick in the balls. It's the only musical I have seen where the audience, at the end, doesn't know whether to applaud the performances or just walk out, depressed.

 

[Czech_pivo]

If you don't know the story of Cabaret then Pineapple may not resonate.

"What would you do?"

The entire show is a metaphorical kick in the balls. It's the only musical I have seen where the audience, at the end, doesn't know whether to applaud the performances or just walk out, depressed.

Ever watch a French film?

 

[Kirkhill]

Maybe - I’d venture to say a number of Canadians would not take up arms. I dare say some would.

Only some folks in Northern Ireland took up arms.

 

[Kirkhill]

I sure hope everyone here would do their duty as members of the Armed Forces.

And, like the Danish Army of 1940, do what their government instructed them to do.

 

[KevinB]

Maybe mods can split the Red Dawn aspects from several threads here.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

But you are in tornado alley. Have they done anything to harden them against wind, debris, hail, etc.?


But it is so flat and boring. I was doing some work with ground search teams a number of years ago and somebody quipped that the highest point of land was a 401 overpass. Another said 'what's the first thing you do when responding to a lost person'. Yell "stand up!"

We're not really in tornado alley. We've had a couple in the previous years, but we certainly arent Nebraska. Our green houses are double wall plastic film. Inflatable that allows a dead air space for insulation. Not impervious, but no where near as fragile as glass. Nobody uses glass anymore. Very easy and fast to replace or repair. We aren’t new to the game, we are the leader when it comes to greenhouses. We are the technology everyone else copies.

It is flat. As I said earlier, it was the lake bottom at one time. The highest spot in the county is the municipal dump. Your source must've been an interloper that didn’t know what he was talking about.

 

[Kirkhill]

Unfortunately Kevin, I'm not so sure. I wish I could be.

The simple answer is to plan for the possibility - no matter how remote. Thank you for the gig President Trump.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

How us suspending the 25% energy tariff (or whatever it was) after saying we won't until all US tariffs are dropped not blinking? Ford just went back on his word, no?

It's called negotiation.

 

[QV]

The only countries that are benefitting from ALL of this are the enemies of the US (and ours) and ALL the non-aligned countries around the world.

Those non-aligned will be saying, WTF, if the Canadians are getting screwed over by the US, why the hell should we do anything with the US going forward.

Think so? I disagree... Look at all the countries stepping up their defence spending! Does a far better armed EU benefit Russia?

If Canada magically goes to 2% in next few months, will you thank the Donald for doing something beneficial to our country that every government in the last few decades refused to do?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

100% - that would be the next move by Dougie -

And, if we really really wanted to bring it up a level, Manitoba or 'insert next province name here', would announce a 25% tariff on electricity at the SAME time that Dougie cut off electricity.

We could go further and have them brown out there own grids. Out uranium helps keep their power plants going.

It's also just weeks away from planting. We could halve their crop production by cutting off our potash.

 

[Czech_pivo]

We could go further and have them brown out there own grids. Out uranium helps keep their power plants going.

It's also just weeks away from planting. We could halve their crop production by cutting off our potash.

I truly hope that none of those things are necessary.
I want a long term, equitable deal for both sides to claim ‘victory’ before long term, long lasting damage is done.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Only some folks in Northern Ireland took up arms.

I don’t want to go down this path - but I do believe that some ‘blue’ Americans would be on our side and would take up arms on our behalf.

 

[IKnowNothing]

If Canada magically goes to 2% in next few months, will you thank the Donald for doing something beneficial to our country that every government in the last few decades refused to do?

Would you thank the corrupt cop that makes investing in home security more necessary?

The fox that forces you to make long overdue repairs to the henhouse?

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I truly hope that none of those things are necessary.
I want a long term, equitable deal for both sides to claim ‘victory’ before long term, long lasting damage is done.

I don’t want to go down this path - but I do believe that some ‘blue’ Americans would be on our side and would take up arms on our behalf.

You're preaching to the choir.

 

[GR66]

I'm all for standing up to Trump and his 51st State annexation BS but are we really at the "let's leave them starving in the dark" and "break out the IED's and punji sticks" stage?

Despite Trump and his MAGA disciples I'm confident that the vast majority of Americans don't wish us harm and are just as baffled by this Twilight Zone episode as we are. Doug Ford is taking the right approach. We're sorry and we don't want to take these actions but the unwarranted attack on our country by your President is making this necessary. Let's resolve this and get back to being the close friends, neighbours and trading partners that we were before all this nonsense.

In the end this WILL be resolved and the US is not going away. Deal firmly with Trump and his crew but don't paint all of America with the same broad brush. We will want to restore good relations after this and being unnecessarily vengeful in our defence will only cause bitterness on both sides that will be difficult to repair.

$0.02

 

[Jarnhamar]

It's called negotiation.

Trump is only leveling 25% and not 50% on aluminum and steel. He's still up 25%.

 

[IKnowNothing]

I'm all for standing up to Trump and his 51st State annexation BS but are we really at the "let's leave them starving in the dark" and "break out the IED's and punji sticks" stage?

No, I'd say we're at the "impress upon them that despite the size imbalance we have enough cards to turn Miran's mercantile revival fairy tale/Trump's Manifest Destiny dream into economic MAD" stage