Harry and Meghan to step down as senior royals

[Kat Stevens]

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[Bruce Monkhouse]

The mouthpieces of the British establishment are losing their shit as an insider spills the beans of how the UK press play nice with their chosen ones - like the adulterous harridan who leaked for decades to the press to attack the woman who had the temerity to marry the man she thought of as her own.

Not sure if somebody in the clan stole your lunch money, but you need to tone it down a few notches....
Bruce

 

[Good2Golf]

Atomic levels of Harrumph!

Starkey almost let ‘n**** bitch’ slip out of his lips early in his rant, followed by the evil of Americanization against the Grand Old Empire…

“He’s married his mother!” Da fuq?!?

There are some serious bitter old farts in Merry Old England; if there’s such hatred for him, then why doesn’t Parliament grow a pair and de-role the Duke of Sussex?

Wow…

 

[FJAG]

I'm still enjoying the whole Harry and Meghan thing and if the choice is between them and the inbred cabal that operates the palace then I'll go with the Californians.

I read the Mail Online every day because a) its articles on events in North America are frequently much more knowledgeable and in depth than what you find in North American news sites, and b) because its a hoot.

Their slavish devotion to Edward and Kate and their deep seething hatred of Harry and Meghan are so obviously worn on their sleeves that you just can't help but laugh and laugh and laugh. There is such a clear link between these "reporters" and their inside-the-palace handlers that one can't help but call them mouthpieces. It would make Russian "firehose-of-falsehood" propagandists shed a tear of envy.

 

[Remius]

I don’t know. For a couple that wanted to be left alone they sure like to be in the spotlight a lot…

 

[FSTO]

Against my better judgement I’m watching the Netflix series.

I can see why Harry has such a hatred to the press, who wouldn’t.

Call me an old fart but airing internal family dirty laundry seems so off putting. But it’s their choice.

 

[FJAG]

Just took the Mail Online poll as to whether Harry and Meghan should give up their royal titles just to see how the voting is going. Almost 200,000 folks or 95% of respondents said "Yes". I voted "No". I figure if Andrew is still a prince ...

 

[lenaitch]

I don’t know. For a couple that wanted to be left alone they sure like to be in the spotlight a lot…

Ya, they (he?) say they want to repair or reestablish his relationship with The Family but not The Firm. It strikes me that profiting from airing dirt involving the family seems like an odd way to go about that.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The mouthpieces of the British establishment are losing their shit as an insider spills the beans of how the UK press play nice with their chosen ones - like the adulterous harridan who leaked for decades to the press to attack the woman who had the temerity to marry the man she thought of as her own.

 

[MARS]

This dude and his brother essentially watched their mom die horribly on live TV which then instantly became a global phenomenon. Plus those dudes come from one of the most messed up familial relationships in the modern western world.

Absolutely nothing about Harry is dealing with his life experiences comes as any surprise to me. To be honest, I think he is handling his trauma remarkably well. I'm not at all convinced that he even has a plan, or that he even cares. 100% I would have gone with hookers and blow and I would be dead in some motel room within a week.

I legit wonder how fucked up William must be inside. I can't imagine that the ever tightening corset of being a future king is allowing him to deal with his own demons and fears and anxieties in any semblance of a positive way. I wonder if that dude is even allowed to cry ever.

I think this is just a dude, albeit one with means none of us plebes have, who is just trying to work through his shit. I personally don't ascribe any proper sense of aim or focus to it.

 

[Halifax Tar]

If you ignore this crap, it will go away.

 

[mariomike]

For a couple that wanted to be left alone they sure like to be in the spotlight a lot…

After 12 pages, it looks ( to me ) like the Justin Bieber thread: " For those who feel the need to talk about him. "

 

[Halifax Tar]

After 12 pages, it looks ( to me ) like the Justin Bieber thread: " For those who feel the need to talk about him. "

I agree.

I don’t know. For a couple that wanted to be left alone they sure like to be in the spotlight a lot…

I agree.

 

[lenaitch]

This dude and his brother essentially watched their mom die horribly on live TV which then instantly became a global phenomenon. Plus those dudes come from one of the most messed up familial relationships in the modern western world.

Absolutely nothing about Harry is dealing with his life experiences comes as any surprise to me. To be honest, I think he is handling his trauma remarkably well. I'm not at all convinced that he even has a plan, or that he even cares. 100% I would have gone with hookers and blow and I would be dead in some motel room within a week.

I legit wonder how fucked up William must be inside. I can't imagine that the ever tightening corset of being a future king is allowing him to deal with his own demons and fears and anxieties in any semblance of a positive way. I wonder if that dude is even allowed to cry ever.

I think this is just a dude, albeit one with means none of us plebes have, who is just trying to work through his shit. I personally don't ascribe any proper sense of aim or focus to it.

You may be right (to a degree anyway). They say one of the ways to work through your demons is to talk about them, so it may be cathartic for him. Making money from it is just a side benefit? At some point, it loses its therapeutic benefit and most people move on. I'm not sure he will. He's living in an environment that makes gobs of money publicizing human dynamics, and he is married to a media-savvy wife. To maintain their income and lifestyle, what else have they got to fall back on? So long as they are gold, this will continue. When we see them on Dr. Phil, the downward spiral will have started.

 

[Remius]

You may be right (to a degree anyway). They say one of the ways to work through your demons is to talk about them, so it may be cathartic for him. Making money from it is just a side benefit? At some point, it loses its therapeutic benefit and most people move on. I'm not sure he will. He's living in an environment that makes gobs of money publicizing human dynamics, and he is married to a media-savvy wife. To maintain their income and lifestyle, what else have they got to fall back on? So long as they are gold, this will continue. When we see them on Dr. Phil, the downward spiral will have started.

Stephen Colbert is already one of his tour spots. I like Colbert but if he’s doing the late night show circuit he’s getting further down that spiral as far as I am concerned.

 

[Spencer100]

Nigel Farage posted this on FB. LOL

Placement

 

[Good2Golf]

Nigel Farage posted this on FB. LOL

Placement

Meh.

One could easily replace Harry’s book with one on the Queen/Crown, and replace the other with a “How to Kill a Princess” book.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Meh.

One could easily replace Harry’s book with one on the Queen/Crown, and replace the other with a “How to Kill a Princess” book.

From ARRSE.... a bit highbrow for that forum really, so rather suspect as a consequence



I had lunch today with an old friend who is a clinical/forensic psychologist specialising in adolescent and post-traumatic incident therapy. I asked her opinion of the revelations being published in Harry's memoir. She wouldn't comment on his mental health but, having met and worked with hundreds of other mental health professionals, she said that much of what he has written sounds like things he has either heard from a therapist or read in a book. She said that, while it's a well-known therapeutic tool for the patient to be encouraged to recall and, to an extent, re-live, traumatic events, however minor, it's done as part of the patient confronting and coming to terms with, events in their past when they had (or felt they had) no control. Often these are events from childhood where a well-adjusted child will eventually make their peace with those events, even something as traumatic as the death of a parent. In the case of a maladjusted child, these issues fester and often emerge in adolescence as poor behaviour. If addressed properly through professional therapy, again, an individual can be brought to an acceptance and, in layman's terms, move on from the trauma.

In Harry's case, my friend worries that if, as we are led to believe, he has been receiving therapeutic treatment for many years and has only recently made the decision to divulge all this publicly, he has perhaps changed therapist. She wonders whether a practitioner has encouraged him to reveal all his issues to the world, without also working with him to understand the impact on others and the potential pitfalls for him. My friend, too professional to put it more bluntly, said that California has it's share of unregulated therapists and, having met a number of them, she wouldn't recommend their methods.

I'm not bound by that type of professional ethic so I think it's highly likely that Harry has indeed been encouraged by some Woo Woo guru to rake up every imagined slight and 'tell his truth', being further encouraged that it's his right to do so, without the safeguard of a wiser counsellor to advise caution. Harry's own statement (paraphrased) that his lived experience trumps objective facts sounded, to my friend, typical of the type of 'validating' technique used by unscrupulous people to create a false 'bond' with a patient - basically where the therapist tells the patient that everything the patient feels is correct and justified, without exception and despite factual evidence to the contrary. An example here would be False Memory Syndrome where the patient was encouraged to accuse an innocent person of appalling abuse.

Harry's lack of insight into his own behaviour is, apparently, indicative of his not fully engaging with therapy, or of an ineffective therapist not actually helping him to see, understand and accept his own role in issues arising in his adult life. This ties in, somewhat, with Dr. Grande's somewhat dry analysis of Harry's Life Coaching venture and the sense we all have that, with his two A Levels and mediocre military career, he's not that smart.

 

[Halifax Tar]

Forgive if I fail to have much sympathy for a Prince who lost their mother. I'm sure he dried his tears with British banking notes. Life must have been real hard growing up in opulence after that.

These folks, the Royals, get way too much coverage.

 

[Good2Golf]

From ARRSE.... a bit highbrow for that forum really, so rather suspect as a consequence



I had lunch today with an old friend who is a clinical/forensic psychologist specialising in adolescent and post-traumatic incident therapy. I asked her opinion of the revelations being published in Harry's memoir. She wouldn't comment on his mental health but, having met and worked with hundreds of other mental health professionals, she said that much of what he has written sounds like things he has either heard from a therapist or read in a book. She said that, while it's a well-known therapeutic tool for the patient to be encouraged to recall and, to an extent, re-live, traumatic events, however minor, it's done as part of the patient confronting and coming to terms with, events in their past when they had (or felt they had) no control. Often these are events from childhood where a well-adjusted child will eventually make their peace with those events, even something as traumatic as the death of a parent. In the case of a maladjusted child, these issues fester and often emerge in adolescence as poor behaviour. If addressed properly through professional therapy, again, an individual can be brought to an acceptance and, in layman's terms, move on from the trauma.

In Harry's case, my friend worries that if, as we are led to believe, he has been receiving therapeutic treatment for many years and has only recently made the decision to divulge all this publicly, he has perhaps changed therapist. She wonders whether a practitioner has encouraged him to reveal all his issues to the world, without also working with him to understand the impact on others and the potential pitfalls for him. My friend, too professional to put it more bluntly, said that California has it's share of unregulated therapists and, having met a number of them, she wouldn't recommend their methods.

I'm not bound by that type of professional ethic so I think it's highly likely that Harry has indeed been encouraged by some Woo Woo guru to rake up every imagined slight and 'tell his truth', being further encouraged that it's his right to do so, without the safeguard of a wiser counsellor to advise caution. Harry's own statement (paraphrased) that his lived experience trumps objective facts sounded, to my friend, typical of the type of 'validating' technique used by unscrupulous people to create a false 'bond' with a patient - basically where the therapist tells the patient that everything the patient feels is correct and justified, without exception and despite factual evidence to the contrary. An example here would be False Memory Syndrome where the patient was encouraged to accuse an innocent person of appalling abuse.

Harry's lack of insight into his own behaviour is, apparently, indicative of his not fully engaging with therapy, or of an ineffective therapist not actually helping him to see, understand and accept his own role in issues arising in his adult life. This ties in, somewhat, with Dr. Grande's somewhat dry analysis of Harry's Life Coaching venture and the sense we all have that, with his two A Levels and mediocre military career, he's not that smart.

That may be, but the entire Royal Family could do with some therapy. I get it that for many Brits and ex-pats, The Crown/Firm/Family can do no wrong. However, critical thinkers may observe that The Crown/Firm/Family isn’t without systemic blemishes and could win Olympic gold when it comes to Gaslighting…a classic example being the dig at Harry’s military career…charged as mediocre, but Edward was an RM drop out, Andrew skirted around the Flaklands theatre, Charles did whatever, and William was kept warm and safe on the home front distributing teddy bears in yellow helicopters…none of them mediocre, of course.

I wish Harry and Megan well, however they want to brand themselves…it’s more legitimate anyways than how Team Kardashian/Jenner has earned billions and billions. I remain unsurprised at the depth of vitriolic and in some cases deceptively innocent gaslighting that the DoS functional royals and supporters continue to shill through their various media outlets…