AK-47‘s ?????

[57Chevy]

That ain't gun tape.

I know  :

And I know it's crap too.


I certainly would never use it on my handle bars,
maybe not even for fixing things.

 

[KevinB]

#1 rule for morons is ensure you take off the stock...

I have no idea what inspires half the folks to do the Islamabad Bling to their guns - most the Ak's in theatre (Iraq or Afghan) shoot about minute of barn door - as corrosive ammo was fired thru them and left - so the barrels corroded, pitted and the guns themselves often rust shut.

Shoot an Ak one week and leave it, do the same to a M16FOW and see what happens 

 

[Robert0288]

I'm sure the same thing will happen if you decide to stick corrosive ammo in your M16.  I had my SKS start rusting up on me within 3 hours of shooting it at the range.

 

[KevinB]

I'm sure the same thing will happen if you decide to stick corrosive ammo in your M16.  I had my SKS start rusting up on me within 3 hours of shooting it at the range.

Well I've yet to see anyone loading 5.56mm corrosive ammo

 

[Popurhedoff]

Depending on what your employers supply, it may only be an AK-47 and not a M4.  With any tool, it is up to you to learn how to use it effectively, learn is capabilities, learn it weaknesses.  There are pro's and con's to everything, as far as I am concerned, it is not sexy, it is not light, but it is forgiving and effective and I have no issues with it.

There are selectors with a tab on the lower side that allows the user to select without taking the hand off of the pistol grip. It is not a M4, so learn to work with it so that you can perform your drills as fast as with an M4.  I have no issues if I have to take my hand off of the pistol grip, my other hand is still pushing it into my shoulder and it is still on target.

AK-47 fails,  yes they can have them, but from my experience I would say that something catastrophic or years of neglect or both.  Try doing that with a M4, a bit of neglect and dirt and whoopsies.  I have seen many in very bad condition, haven't been cleaned in years if not decades and used a lot of corrosive ammo but it still worked.  After a few hours of TLC, a lot of chemicals and it came out not to shabby.

For 0-300 yds, I like the stopping power of the AK-47, 123-125gr bullet at 800m/s does a good deal of damage to the tissue and bone.  For accuracy, I like the M4 but we cant have everything in one package.  Over here, I prefer the Ak-47,  I am in the city and just about every contact would be 0-200 yds,  well within the effective range of its capabilities.

Cheap, easy to use, and effective... its no wonder that it has kiiled more people than any other weapons system.


AK-47 with Aimpoint

AK-47 with L3 EoTech

Pop in the suck

 

[KevinB]

Damn dude -- your looking old these days  ;D

 

[Popurhedoff]

Damn dude -- your looking old these days  ;D

Funny Kevin,  I thought the same about you when I saw you on the program  "Ultimate Weapons" 3 nights in a row... lots of KevinB reruns.  But then again I am in my mid-50's :-D

Cheers
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[KevinB]

Actually I was thinking damn you look like you dropped 20 years - but I did not want to admit that I just look really old and fat these days.

 

[Popurhedoff]

Actually I was thinking damn you look like you dropped 20 years - but I did not want to admit that I just look really old and fat these days.

Thanks KevB,  I beleive that all your years in Iraq may have something to do with it, those were definately stressfull times to say the least.  Funny though, I have seen you more on TV over here than back in Canada...it seems like your the star of Haji TV.  I am so glad your doing great, you deserve it mate, your hard work has paid off.

I am still a bit regimented, up at 0500hrs, hit the gym at 0530, and then start the day.  I think I am in better shape now than when I was in the Mil.  I still find it hard to beleive that I completed 32 years of service.  I am picking up some new Ak's today and was hoping that I could pick them myself out of the MOI armoury but that isn't going to happen.  My current issue was made in 74, but works like a dream.

Keep in touch and grats on the new family

Cheers
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[Journeyman]

....KevB,  I believe that all your years in Iraq....

I figure the whole "fatherhood" thing is aging him. 

[/tangent]

 

[KevinB]

lol -- I think Journeyman is right.

A little less than impressed about my career as a haji TV start though, I guess as long as its not followed up by a wanted dead or alive add its not too bad.

 

[Popurhedoff]

I was in the Ministry of Interior (Afghanistan) today to trade out 3 of our "Frankenguns" similiar as to what KevinB posted pictures of when I was escorted to their armoury to hand select the replacements. I went through approx. 25 AK's before I found this gem.  It is a 1953 Russian AK-47 Type 2, it was under a plie of guns. I disassembled each one to inspect them and I discovered that this one had a milled receiver, chrome lined barrel and piston group.  The exterior finish was worn off but the insides were in excellent condition, bore excellent, selector smooth and light with positive locking at each selection.  The action was smooth and the trigger was light, smooth and consistant, better than any M4 I have tried.

This was a nice find for me, I like the balance of this model, 59 years old and solid and tight, no rattles, wood is beat but that can be easily replaced.  While I was cleaning it, i noticed a slight rattle in the stock, I took off the butt plate and found a 7.62x39mm live round in the stock where the oil bottle goes. The round was full of cosmoline and dirt, and you could not even see the primer, I thought that this was a dummy round at first but after cleaning it up, the headstamp was '63... I bet that has been in there for a long time.

I traded out the forestock, pistol grip and dust cover and I will take it to the range next week. If it fires half as good as it is inside then that will be my daily keeper.  This model feels better than most I have used.

Cheers
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[Dissident]

Wow. Nice find.

 

[jollyjacktar]

Interesting story about Syrian government salting AK rounds with HE to cause injury to insurgents.  Apparently has been practice for the US as well and other groups over the years.

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/20/world/middleeast/syrian-government-booby-traps-rebels-ammunition.html?_r=0

NY Times video about the practice and it's history.  http://nyti.ms/TFzbL7

 

[shadownet]

In an environment like Iraq or Afghanistan, I'd rather have an AK with me than an M4 or C7. No offense, but I prefer reliability over tech. And sure, it's range is dirt, but most firefights happen inside the AK's deadly range anyways, especially Iraq.

The AK-74 has a longer range than the AK-47 or AKM, and the bullet is supposedly to have a longer tumbling effect than the 5.56mm, but hey, whatever the CF gives me, I'll use it to its fullest and take good care of it, may it be a C7A2, C8, C9, or even a TAC-50.

 

[Popurhedoff]

I was at Camp Alamo yesterday and had a chance to talk with a lot of the Canadian troops, the single most asked question to me was "Why do I like the AK?"  This type 2 has a milled receiver, chrome lined barrel and piston. After I cleared the weapon, I asked them to try the action and the trigger, they were all amazed how nice and smooth it was, and I showed them how fast the IA and stoppage drills were, how fast you can rack the action without losing your site picture, or taking it away from the shoulder.

I told them that I could go months/years without cleaning (even though I won’t), throw dirt in it, bang it around... if I need to clean it in a austere place, I can use diesel fuel for cleaning and lubrication or urinate on/in it in an emergency.  I disassembled the major parts in under 6 seconds without trying for speed, and then reassembled it for them as a familiarization.  It is a battle rifle albeit with limitations, know and work with them, and as the poster above said, this is the weapon I prefer here, same for me.

As with any weapon, take care of it and it will take care of you.

Cheers
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[MikeL]

In an environment like Iraq or Afghanistan, I'd rather have an AK with me than an M4 or C7. No offense, but I prefer reliability over tech. And sure, it's range is dirt, but most firefights happen inside the AK's deadly range anyways, especially Iraq.

What experience are you basing this off of?  Have you been in Iraq or Afghanistan? Researched the typical engagement ranges in each province?, etc  Fired the C7 and AK47 enough times to have a opinion on them?

but hey, whatever the CF gives me, I'll use it to its fullest and take good care of it, may it be a C7A2, C8, C9, or even a TAC-50.

If you get into the Reserves,  expect to only see the C6, C7A2 and C9..  no sniper weapon systems,  they also aren't weapons that are just handed out  to anyone.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

In an environment like Iraq or Afghanistan, I'd rather have an AK with me than an M4 or C7. No offense, but I prefer reliability over tech. And sure, it's range is dirt, but most firefights happen inside the AK's deadly range anyways, especially Iraq.

The AK-74 has a longer range than the AK-47 or AKM, and the bullet is supposedly to have a longer tumbling effect than the 5.56mm, but hey, whatever the CF gives me, I'll use it to its fullest and take good care of it, may it be a C7A2, C8, C9, or even a TAC-50.

Can you please explain to me what a longer tumbling effect is?

 

[Jarnhamar]

The AK-74 has a longer range than the AK-47 or AKM, and the bullet is supposedly to have a longer tumbling effect than the 5.56mm, but hey, whatever the CF gives me, I'll use it to its fullest and take good care of it, may it be a C7A2, C8, C9, or even a TAC-50.

Or you could just swap out weapons that dead enemies drop.  Run over their bodies and collect their ammo too.

I was at Camp Alamo yesterday and had a chance to talk with a lot of the Canadian troops

The next time you see a guy with a flashlight hanging off his uniform like this could you gently take it off his shirt and put it in his pocket?

Also, we should talk about the viability of a certain someone mailing a certain someone else a (perhaps mythical) semi-automatic only AK74/47? 

 

[shadownet]

Can I ask how certain people manage to obtain automatic AKs? I thought those were under the Restricted Firearms section of Canad'as Firearms Policies?