CAF Specialist Pay [Spec Pay]- All Trades [MERGED]

[m_a_c]

What about trades that do not have a QL5, do they receive their spec pay upon completion of their respective QL3?  or will there be a set time of OJT? 

 

[aesop081]

Not too sure about that one......Every trade is different i guess, after all, my MOC has no QL3 !!!

 

[hiv]

There are MOCs without QL5s?

 

[aesop081]

Infantry has no QL5 i beleive

 

[JimmyPeeOn]

LCIS has thier own "In-house OJT" for a QL5.  So if you're a Cpl and you get on your chain for the packege you might get it sooner than you think.  It's a good trade though, I work with techs, we have a lot of shit pump techs though. som really good guys too.

The infantry have 2 Ql5's thier PLQ and Infantry Section Commanders Course DP2A i think its called now, it was the ISCC when I was there.
Plus a whole buch of 4's.

 

[Inf Sig]

This might cheer you up - knew a Infanteer who joined the Cele world - 1 1.2 yrs ago, and was happier than a pig in XXXX cause, while waiting for his crse to start in Kingston, was collecting spec pay in Wpg - with no training. The reason being - he was a Cpl. Ptes - (B) or (T), do not rx spec pay UNTIL they rx their Cpls. Lucky for you!

 

[Radop]

Well I was able to find out for myself the answer.
Spec pay is not granted until you are QL5A qualified. Effective 1Aug04.
If you wer in the trade before hand the grandfather clause is there for the Pte/Cpl that are not 5A qualified.
GRRRR

There is no more 5s so they did away with that and made it the Cpl qualification.  Several of the people I know have gotten it as soon as they remustered, not even completed poet or LCIS trg.  One did it last month and he has already collected his spec pay.

 

[KaptKain]

There is no more 5s so they did away with that and made it the Cpl qualification. Several of the people I know have gotten it as soon as they remustered, not even completed poet or LCIS trg. One did it last month and he has already collected his spec pay.

WTF!!!!!!!!!!!
I am here on my POET as a Cpl 3 and they wont even let me see my spec pay till I do my OJT package!
He must have been forced from his prior trade.
I even did a LCIS post for 3 years and they wont grant me spec pay.
Hopefully I will get my OJT written off quicker with my prev trade skills and time prior.

 

[Radop]

I will talk to some of my LCIS Buddies and ask them when they got it.  Keep you posted.

 

[bob the piper]

Does anyone know or know of a list of the MOCs that recieve Spec 1 or 2 pay, preferably showing which are 1 and which are 2?

 

[Inch]

There's only 4 trades that get spec 2, SAR techs (MOC 131), Flight Engineers (MOC 091), Non Destructive Testing Techs (MOC 532) and Marine Engineering Artificer (MOC 314).

There's a whole bunch that get Spec 1, too many to list. Try this site: http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/dppd/pay/MOC_List_Active.xls

 

[bob the piper]

Thanks Inch.

 

[paracowboy]

slight tangent that I always find amusing: Specialist pay seems to be for those who receive 'extra' education/training in trades that practically guarantee them employment on civvie street, no? Whereas, I am so 'specialized' that there is no equivalent to my trade and will probably end up either digging a ditch, or being a mall security guard.

"Let's see, according to your resume you can jump out of airplanes and blow stuff up. How do you feel about the food service industry?" ;D

 

[D-C]

Can anyone out tell me if MP's still it spec pay or not!

Thanks.

 

[George Wallace]

I am out.  MP's still get Spec Pay.

 

[HADES 1962]

as i remember yes they do still get it.

 

[Navalsnpr]

Yes the Military Police MOSID receives spec pay.

The list of all trades and there assignments pertaining to spec pay can be found at:

    DPPD MOC/MOSID List

 

[D-C]

Thanks, Navalsnipr for the lists!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[bubble.tea]

There's only 4 trades that get spec 2, SAR techs (MOC 131), Flight Engineers (MOC 091), Non Destructive Testing Techs (MOC 532) and Marine Engineering Artificer (MOC 314).

There's a whole bunch that get Spec 1, too many to list. Try this site: http://www.forces.gc.ca/dgcb/dppd/pay/MOC_List_Active.xls

awesome file.  How did you ever find it?

 

[S McKee]

slight tangent that I always find amusing: Specialist pay seems to be for those who receive 'extra' education/training in trades that practically guarantee them employment on civvie street, no? Whereas, I am so 'specialized' that there is no equivalent to my trade and will probably end up either digging a ditch, or being a mall security guard.

"Let's see, according to your resume you can jump out of airplanes and blow stuff up. How do you feel about the food service industry?" ;D

First just because your a death tech, don't write off your training and leadership experience, albeit right now there is a glut of machinegunners and mortar-men out there in civvie street. However you do have qualifications and traits that employers love in applicants. The fact that many ex-031s are so  readily excepted on city police forces across Canada shows that your a highly sought after commodity. Secondly, some Spec trades require a diploma or university degree prior to entry into that trade.