CAN-USA 2025 Tariff Strife (split from various pol threads)

[Bruce Monkhouse]

Your disloyalty is on display.

MOD POST

Easy on the 'disloyal' accusations.
Thank you,
Bruce

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Your fantasy porn isn’t happening. There is no appetite to become American except for disciples of the orange messiah that can’t put their own country first. I’d be happy to expedite their migration out.

Ask Albertans and it's got nothing to do with Trump. Sometimes you can only kick a dog so many times before it bites and runs away. Don't let your immense dislike for Trump blind you to reality.

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

I think your close but I think that the US had a fault line as well but those on one side to the line haven’t been given the advantages that the French in Quebec had - a true place of their own. The US fault line runs across parts of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and into area of California, it’s the Latino fault line. It’s been there just as long as the French fault line. But they never had a Sir Guy Carlton write them laws guaranteeing them language, religion and government rights when they become part of the US.

The US has had numerous fault lines.... they just settle them, one way or another....

 

[daftandbarmy]

Comment on the whole: If only Canadians put as much effort into pressuring their own Government to deal with a stealthy yet destructive effort to compromise the country’s institutions and security by a silent adversary.

Our national gas lighting internationalist man baby's legacy:

Lorne Gunter: Trudeau policies undermine Canada's ability to endure threatened Trump tariffs​

Of course, U.S. President Donald Trump is a bully who’s trying to take advantage of our weaknesses. But who made us so weak and vulnerable in the first place? The Trudeau Liberals

Remember when Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said there was “no business case” for building a pipeline, refinery and marine terminal to take Canadian LNG (liquefied natural gas) to Germany? And later he said the same about LNG to Japan?

Imagine if Canada had two LNG ports now, one on the East Coast to take gas to Europe and another on the West Coast to take more to Asian markets. The pain of any U.S. tariffs would be lessened.

And imagine if Trudeau hadn’t killed two oil pipelines — Northern Gateway and Energy East. Those could have taken Alberta oil to markets other than the U.S. If those pipelines already existed, then if Trump decides to make our oil so expense U.S. refineries don’t want to buy it, Canada would already have options.

And if Trudeau and Steven Guilbeault, the high priest of Trudeau’s eco-cult, hadn’t banned tankers full of Alberta oil from sailing off the West Coast, and hadn’t killed more than $300 billion in new convention oil and oilsands developments, perhaps we’d have more international markets and thus more flexibility in dealing with the Americans.

But because Trudeau, Guilbeault and the rest of the Liberals have done all they could in the past decade to sacrifice Canada’s energy industry on the altar of environmental extremism, 97 per cent of our oil exports now go to the U.S. So (no pun intended), Trump has us over a barrel. We have few good options to shelter Canada’s economy and standard of living from punitive American sanctions.

Of course, U.S. President Donald Trump is a bully who’s trying to take advantage of our weaknesses. But who made us so weak and vulnerable in the first place?

In addition to making us wholly dependent on American energy markets, their regulations, taxes and policies have lowered Canadian productivity drastically. They have slowed our economic growth until it is practically nonexistent.

Inflation, caused by their overspending, has made the cost of necessities soar and badly damaged our standard of living. Their insane immigration policies have lowered our per capital GDP for nearly three years in a row, while at the same time spiking housing prices and overburdening our health-care system.

And their signature policy — the carbon tax — has simply made life more expensive while doing little or nothing to reduce emissions.

Now, after all this Liberal-caused devastation, what is Trudeau’s response to Trump’s threat of 25 per cent tariffs on all Canadian goods? Buy French’s ketchup! French’s is made with Ontario tomatoes. Heinz uses American ones.

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, Trudeau actually cited the French’s ketchup alternative as an example of how Canadians might combat Trump’s tariffs. “Having Canadian consumers have alternatives to having to spend tariffs on American imports is part of how we make sure Canadians don’t bear undue costs around tariffs.”

Lorne Gunter: Trudeau policies undermine Canada's ability to endure threatened Trump tariffs

After limiting Alberta oil's access to non-U.S. markets, Canada must follow Danielle Smith's strategy focusing on diplomacy and border security

edmontonjournal.com

 

[quadrapiper]

The US has had numerous fault lines.... they just settle them, one way or another....



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Not sure if I'd say settled.

 

[Remius]

Ask Albertans and it's got nothing to do with Trump. Sometimes you can only kick a dog so many times before it bites and runs away. Don't let your immense dislike for Trump blind you to reality.

Well aware of Albertans grievances. If Albertans want to separate and join the US as Puerto Rico North there is a process they can follow to do so. That doesn’t mean the rest of us have to follow or enable that COA.

Don’t let your immense love for trump blind yours either.

 

[QV]

Well aware of Albertans grievances. If Albertans want to separate and join the US as Puerto Rico North there is a process they can follow to do so. That doesn’t mean the rest of us have to follow or enable that COA.

Don’t let your immense love for trump blind yours either.

Remius thinks he’s kind has the monopoly on what is Canada. The eastern laurentian elites have damaged Canada so badly it’s potentially fatally. Now they seek to blame everyone else around them like a spoiled child. They haven’t a clue in the world what to do next except gaslight and name call.

Remius is so upset at the idea of a Smith lead Alberta and PP lead Canada and what that might mean for the country that he brags how he will certainly consider voting for the status quo. The party that firmly entrenched us in the current situation.

Unfortunately for him, his fantasy of Canada is not viable and has run its course.

Less reliance on a power that can wreck our economy if they so choose.

Diversify and stop relying on a partner that can turn on us whenever they want.

Let’s never be in that position again.

So spend on defence and border but let’s find other opportunities. I’m fine with less America if it means more sovereignty.

Too late.

 

[Remius]

Remius thinks he’s kind has the monopoly on what is Canada. The eastern laurentian elites have damaged Canada so badly it’s potentially fatally. Now they seek to blame everyone else around them like a spoiled child. They haven’t a clue in the world what to do next except gaslight and name call.

Remius is so upset at the idea of a Smith lead Alberta and PP lead Canada and what that might mean for the country that he brags how he will certainly consider voting for the status quo. The party that firmly entrenched us in the current situation.

Unfortunately for him, his fantasy of Canada is not viable and has run its course.

Too late.

I’ve clearly hit a nerve with you. Good.

And thank you for proving my point.

Cheers.

 

[QV]

You have a strange way of admitting defeat.

 

[Remius]

You have a strange way of admitting defeat.

Oh you are still here?

Not surprised you didn’t get that.

I can only do so much.

Enjoy your day QV.

 

[YZT580]

Comment on the whole: If only Canadians put as much effort into pressuring their own Government to deal with a stealthy yet destructive effort to compromise the country’s institutions and security by a silent adversary.

you have to have it affect your own pocketbook first.

 

[Good2Golf]

you have to have it affect your own pocketbook first.

The danger being the foreign interference/influence becoming irreversible before enough Canadians feel it in their wallet…

 

[YZT580]

The danger being the foreign interference/influence becoming irreversible before enough Canadians feel it in their wallet…

sad but true