Could some one post a CURRENT military ethos ,

[twistedfang790]

wondering is this how some people in the miltary think the military is varbatem(me used a big word)or just old opinions?
been in for almost 20 years and the underlined part threw me !!




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THE CANADIAN MILITARY ETHOS ( Prospective CF members, this one's for you)

« on: August 14, 2005, 15:53:25 »



THE CANADIAN MILITARY ETHOS

WE believe in Canada as a strong and free nation and accept that the ultimate reason for the existence of the Canadian armed forces is the preservation of secure justice and peace for canada.  We believe that this can be best attained through the developement and maintenance of a professional military force.

WE believe that this profession of arms, an integral part of Canadian society, forms a destinc sub-set of the entire Canadian fabric.  We are a group who have been charged with a unique mandate: To serve our country through the maintenance of its security and defence of it's sovereignty, if necessary, by application of military force.

WE accept that the authority to apply such power requires that our profession be properly structured, with adherance to a clearly defined chain of command and obedience to a code of conduct, in our case " The code of service discipline".

WE believe that the military society is a good society embodying those moral virtues, which affect our relations with our commerades in arms and ourselves, of: prudence, justice, patriotism, obedience, veracity and patience.  We believe that these values, derived from a traditional code of ethics, fit into and form part of those of contemporary Canadian society.

WE accept that it is essential for all members to clearly display loyalty, first to the country then to the group, and finaly to each member of the chain of command, both junior and senior to them before taking thought for themselves.

WE accept that teamwork is essential to the survival and success of the military unit and therefore accept the necessity of continuous cycles of training and practice.  This ensures not only that the group functions as a disciplined and professional entity, but also that individual members are trained to perform well, both in their assigned role and as members of the team, and that their potential for developement as future leaders is recognized and nurtured.

WE accept that in volunteering to serve our country we must endure the restriction of certain freedoms including some rights provided by democratic process.

WE accept these responsabilities in memory of those comerades who died in the service of their country and must ensure that their memory and ideals are not forgoten


I have underlined a passage that i think puts some of your previous attitudes into perspective.  Take a good read and if you should find yourself at odds with all or any of the above, find a new line of work.


« Last Edit: August 17, 2005, 19:02:37 by Bruce Monkhouse »

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"The only difference between peace and war is where we place our bombs" - General Curtis E. LeMay
One of those was underlined specifically but guess does not translate, as well, topic locked, as well after a comment all search for that particular subject was ...... having problems lol(just one of those things at that time lol, )and now in  stranger news............

 

[aesop081]

wondering is this how some people in the miltary think the military is varbatem(me used a big word)or just old opinions?
been in for almost 20 years and the underlined part threw me !!

I don't understand what you are asking.

 

[JorgSlice]

There is also nothing underlined.

 

[dapaterson]

Google "Duty With Honour" and you should get what you're looking for.

 

[aesop081]

There is also nothing underlined.

I made the original post after a member here was being a giant douche over not having her way in a certain situation and thinking of herself as a barrack room lawyer

The underlined part was :

WE accept that in volunteering to serve our country we must endure the restriction of certain freedoms including some rights provided by democratic process.

 

[JorgSlice]

I made the original post after a member here was being a giant douche over not having her way in a certain situation and thinking of herself as a barrack room lawyer

The underlined part was :

Interesting. I don't know what the big "dealio" is... you sign the dotted line... you're supposed to have read, understand, and oblige by these kind of conditions. As a Reservist, I may not necessarily apply to all of it all the time, but I signed up to proudly serve my country and accept whatever comes (within reasonable means that is).

Some people's children 

 

[Good2Golf]

Duty with Honour - The Profession of Arms

Read end of Para 1, page 46.

...Members are also subject to a much stricter degree of discipline than in civilian organizations and must accept limitations on their rights and freedoms to make public statements and engage in political activities as citizens.

 

[aesop081]

Ok, i'll take a stab........

wondering is this how some people in the miltary think the military is varbatem(me used a big word)or just old opinions?

What I posted are not "old opinions". These are at the core of the military profession. The military IS that way. These are core values that define our professional military force.

been in for almost 20 years and the underlined part threw me !!

You must have been under a rock for almost 20 years then.

 

[twistedfang790]

What I posted are not "old opinions". These are at the core of the military profession. The military IS that way. These are core values that define our professional military force

Thank you !! finally someone has said this is how we as canadian soldiers thru out the three arms of service in our country present our selfs and have agreed to since.( guess way past the last 19 years), but i keep on looking for that phrase, that one phrase ,the we, the we agree and the parts on the locked section on military ethos says ................
THE CANADIAN MILITARY ETHOS ( Prospective CF members, this one's for you)

« on: August 14, 2005, 15:53:25 »

THE CANADIAN MILITARY ETHOS

WE believe in Canada as a strong and free nation and accept that the ultimate reason for the existence of the Canadian armed forces is the preservation of secure justice and peace for canada. We believe that this can be best attained through the developement and maintenance of a professional military force.

WE believe that this profession of arms, an integral part of Canadian society, forms a destinc sub-set of the entire Canadian fabric. We are a group who have been charged with a unique mandate: To serve our country through the maintenance of its security and defence of it's sovereignty, if necessary, by application of military force.

WE accept that the authority to apply such power requires that our profession be properly structured, with adherance to a clearly defined chain of command and obedience to a code of conduct, in our case " The code of service discipline".

WE believe that the military society is a good society embodying those moral virtues, which affect our relations with our commerades in arms and ourselves, of: prudence, justice, patriotism, obedience, veracity and patience. We believe that these values, derived from a traditional code of ethics, fit into and form part of those of contemporary Canadian society.

WE accept that it is essential for all members to clearly display loyalty, first to the country then to the group, and finaly to each member of the chain of command, both junior and senior to them before taking thought for themselves.

WE accept that teamwork is essential to the survival and success of the military unit and therefore accept the necessity of continuous cycles of training and practice. This ensures not only that the group functions as a disciplined and professional entity, but also that individual members are trained to perform well, both in their assigned role and as members of the team, and that their potential for developement as future leaders is recognized and nurtured.

WE accept that in volunteering to serve our country we must endure the restriction of certain freedoms including some rights provided by democratic process.

WE accept these responsabilities in memory of those comerades who died in the service of their country and must ensure that their memory and ideals are not forgoten

I have underlined a passage that i think puts some of your previous attitudes into perspective. Take a good read and if you should find yourself at odds with all or any of the above, find a new line of work.

« Last Edit: August 17, 2005, 19:02:37 by Bruce Monkhouse »

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I guess that what you have said  is the core of the military profession..... not really, even the rock(called a working rock) has moved on past putting I made the original post after a member here was being a giant douche over not having her way in a certain situation and thinking of herself as a barrack room lawyer

The underlined part was :



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WE accept that in volunteering to serve our country we must endure the restriction of certain freedoms including some rights provided by democratic process.

But thank you for NOT answering the question, pointing out that your presention of words are very good, and no one elses years of service really means anything without a "certain education" or certain  brotherhood... I was looking for more direction and specifics, its funny how some things havent changed much over the past 20 years..... but to be fair , it depends on the leader ...

 

[aesop081]

But thank you for NOT answering the question,

To be perfectly honest, I am still not sure what it is you are asking.

pointing out that your presention of words are very good, and no one elses years of service really means anything without a "certain education" or certain  brotherhood

Could you please tell me where exactly it is that i pointed this out ?

 

[Good2Golf]

Twistedfang, I don't know how you are doing it, but you are destroying any kind of formatting the Milnet.ca site supports and are making it very difficult to read what you are saying, or are copying from other people, or linking to information from somewhere else.

Did you read any of the document I linked above?

What is it you are asking.  CDN Aviator is not the only one confused here.  Just what kind of an answer are you looking for?  What kind of phrase...that isn't in "Duty with Honour"?

???