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nickanick said:
Answers given in this very thread.
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Answers given in this very thread.
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RCN destroyers and frigates have different roles. Which one gets deployed depends on what the task requires. The resources consumed in process are part of the cost of doing business and are certainly discussed while making the decision, but they are not the defining factor.
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Dolphin_Hunter said:
INBOARD can have a whole different meaning amigo....(necro-post but hey, good for fun)
As for deployments? Well, note that both 280's and CPF's have been used as command platforms.
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Back to the original topic.....
Having sailed on both 280 and 330 class of ships I have found the following:
280's
- are a more family orientated crew because the same people keep getting posted back based on qualifications (think Cheers where everybody knows your name)
- sleeping arrangements are of lesser quality ( bunked up with more people and a lot of leaky systems in the mess decks think JP5 back aft)
- rough ride in the weather but fun if your not sick ( kinda like a cork)
- "command platforms" therefore, lots of sailing with staff weanies
330's
- accomodations are awesome, small messdecks sometimes with carpet!!
- better main cave, larger with actual couches to relax on and take in a movie
- used as chaff when a 280 is in company
- has a "puck" maker vice the great spitting "mikey" on a 280
There is more but can't give it all away
Having sailed on both 280 and 330 class of ships I have found the following:
280's
- are a more family orientated crew because the same people keep getting posted back based on qualifications (think Cheers where everybody knows your name)
- sleeping arrangements are of lesser quality ( bunked up with more people and a lot of leaky systems in the mess decks think JP5 back aft)
- rough ride in the weather but fun if your not sick ( kinda like a cork)
- "command platforms" therefore, lots of sailing with staff weanies
330's
- accomodations are awesome, small messdecks sometimes with carpet!!
- better main cave, larger with actual couches to relax on and take in a movie
- used as chaff when a 280 is in company
- has a "puck" maker vice the great spitting "mikey" on a 280
There is more but can't give it all away
FSTO said:
Remember when we where feeding the beast between boardings? I still have nightmares about ripping up cardboard, sorting through paper towel and finding the occasional "black water rat"
Mikey is still there on ALG, though it was tits up when I came off last Jul.
On another note, I can't believe our part in APOLLO was almost 10 yrs ago...
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Grimey said:Remember when we where feeding the beast between boardings? I still have nightmares about ripping up cardboard, sorting through paper towel and finding the occasional "black water rat"
Miley is still there on ALG, though it was tits up when I came off last Jul.
On another note, I can't believe our part in APOLLO was almost 10 yrs ago...
Quit reminding me!
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did someone say Pucks, our Coxn was anti-nudy everything, if someone was caught with one it was taken, thankfully it made its way to garbage disposal so we made "Porno Pucks" when melting the plastic.
I myself enjoyed the Frigates compaired with the 280s it was clearer and no as tense ( I liked the staff Wienes comment above.)
I didnt get to explore the tanker much but my job is supply so on the tanker my buddy felt he was worth a dine a dozen, where on the Frigate there were maybe a hand full of us so out of trade respect was there...add the fact I was mostly the laundry guy so I was one of those guys you just didnt mess with unless you like smeeling like diesel.
I myself enjoyed the Frigates compaired with the 280s it was clearer and no as tense ( I liked the staff Wienes comment above.)
I didnt get to explore the tanker much but my job is supply so on the tanker my buddy felt he was worth a dine a dozen, where on the Frigate there were maybe a hand full of us so out of trade respect was there...add the fact I was mostly the laundry guy so I was one of those guys you just didnt mess with unless you like smeeling like diesel.
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The nice thing about being AirDet aka Zoomie, I get to sail them all. I found they all have benefits and challenges. Personally, I think it comes down to the crew. I love Calgary and Algonkatraz. The crews certainly liked to have fun. I was stranded with Calgary in Singapore in 99. You couldn't find a more interesting bunch to be stuck with... loads of laughs.
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In my limited sea time I've done all three, and at one point had 3 different COs, 4 XOs, 4 HODs and 3 CHODs on the same ship in a few years. One thing I learned there was the class of ship doesn't mean much for how much I enjoyed it; it's all about the crew. 280s are not as comfortable as CPFs, but a CPF with a bad crew/command team/department/section will still ruin your day. Tankers had tons of room (didn't hit my head once!) but can be a huge amount of work to keep running. Swapping out the command team completely changed the whole mood of the ship several times (down and up), and you also noticed a big difference when a few of the eternally smiling happy go lucky types didn't make a trip for whatever reason. Not sure if army/ air force are the same, but when you are within 400 odd feet of the same people in the middle of the ocean for weeks at a time, the effects of different personalities seemed to have noticeable and direct impacts pretty quickly. Basically, I think it's all about the crew; you can still have a lot of fun, be very effective and a lot of good memories with the right group even if you're on a rusty old scow (or digging ditches, hauling boxes, whatever).
One thing I will say was that some of the frigates smelled absolutely awful; I had to come home and strip off my clothes in the basement and put all my kit in the wash right away and have a shower before the wife would come near me on one in particular. Some kind of deep fried garbage fusion thing happening in the recirculating air, it was pretty terrible. And that's coming from someone who has previously worked in slaughterhouses and spent time in sewage treatment plants and neither of those were even close. At least 280s have the identifiable smell of diesel.
One thing I will say was that some of the frigates smelled absolutely awful; I had to come home and strip off my clothes in the basement and put all my kit in the wash right away and have a shower before the wife would come near me on one in particular. Some kind of deep fried garbage fusion thing happening in the recirculating air, it was pretty terrible. And that's coming from someone who has previously worked in slaughterhouses and spent time in sewage treatment plants and neither of those were even close. At least 280s have the identifiable smell of diesel.
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Funny you say that about the CPF smell. My wife has complained the past couple of trips when I got into the car for the drive home that I smell of deep fried "something". She asked me if I had been hanging around the fryers or what? On the Tanker, I smelled of fuel but then that was what I was dealing with on a typical day. No bitches about that.
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jollyjacktar said:
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She is worried about your weight. Fuel isn't as likely for you to put on weight as French Fries are. >
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I remember are cooks on the Cal were so good, there was always something to eat, didnt have to spend a dine at the canteen.
Breakfast > Soup > Lunch > Supper > and the Late Night Meal (left overs)
And being supply and helping bring up the food, they'll be like you try this and tell me what you think....most of the time something yummy.
Breakfast > Soup > Lunch > Supper > and the Late Night Meal (left overs)
And being supply and helping bring up the food, they'll be like you try this and tell me what you think....most of the time something yummy.
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I found it varied; some of them weren't too bad, but the one in particular was just appalling. I used to walk home from the dockyard along Barrington to get to the north end of Halifax, and it took me a week to realize the smell (that I thought was from the harbour) was actually coming off of my uniform.
'Deep fried garbage' was the only way I can describe it. It was a terrible combination of two week old gash that some lazy bugger scraped their plate off into mixed with old deep fat frier grease. Guessing something in the HVAC was messed up and the garbage stores air was mixing into the main citadel.
After that it was a relief to go back to the 280s, where I just came home smelling like good honest diesel.
'Deep fried garbage' was the only way I can describe it. It was a terrible combination of two week old gash that some lazy bugger scraped their plate off into mixed with old deep fat frier grease. Guessing something in the HVAC was messed up and the garbage stores air was mixing into the main citadel.
After that it was a relief to go back to the 280s, where I just came home smelling like good honest diesel.
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I always thought OTT smelled the worst of all the frigates. My gear off gassed for weeks after coming home from her.
REG seems to smell the best...
REG seems to smell the best...
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SeaKingTacco said:
You're right. 341 always seemed to continuously vent black water gasses from right above the Howda. Even in the flats she smelled like a cesspool. It was as if the fishies did it to the flight deck on purpose. Of all the ships I sailed, that one was the worst. Crappy food, Capt Charge-a-lot, and it floats like a streamer, just some of the things I could've done without on that boat.
