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Is this "Truth or Dare"? I am sure you know darn well why the Air Force isn't there and you are just toying with us, or maybe you really don't know.
Michael O`Leary said:
Harry Potter said:But a lot of you are in for a big surprise if you think that you will convince Treasury Board to caught up $5B for a capability your leadership has been unwilling to commit to WAR. Quit basking is the past guys. Your leadership has seen fit to pass more than once on an opportunity to deliver REAL kinetic effects in Afghanistan. So when money will be dolled out, it will be assigned to elements that are NEEDED and familiar. Cargo, fix wing SAR, Tac Hel.
Harry Potter said:The CF is learning to fight a WAR with someone else's CAS because its own Air Force declined to send fighters. You don't need F-35 to go to Afghanistan. Why are you not there now?? If you're not there now, why would we believe that you will go later? Come on, get your head out of the sand!
Harry Potter said:Tac Hel guys want to be there.
Harry Potter said:The CF is learning to fight a WAR with someone else's CAS because its own Air Force declined to send fighters.
Harry Potter said:You don't need F-35 to go to Afghanistan. Why are you not there now?? If you're not there now, why would we believe that you will go later?
SeaKingTacco said:I can't believe I actually lowered myself to defend fighter pukes...
Lockheed's first STOVL F-35 - a closer look
Lockheed Martin has rolled out the first supersonic STOVL F-35B Joint Strike Fighter. Think about those words - "supersonic" and "STOVL". I worked in future projects at Hawker Siddeley in the late 1970s, so I have an idea of how hard it is to get those two characteristics together in one aircraft. Most of the designs I worked on used Harrier-style vectored thrust, which put a big fat engine right in the middle of the airframe - not exactly what you want for supersonic fineness. Remember Boeing's X-32?
But the F-35B looks quite sleek. The secret is its shaft-driven lift fan, installed behind the cockpit under a massive rear-hinged door that engineers have dubbed "the 56 Chevy hood". The lift system allows the engine to produce about 40,000lb of vertical thrust without needing reheat. About half that comes from the lift fan and the rest from the roll posts and rear swivelling nozzle. The system worked extremely well on Lockheed's X-32B concept demonstrator.
Steel Horse said:The only way we are getting the STOVL version, is if we have a STOVL carrier.
It would not require a crazy amount of personnel as some have insisted that a carrier would require.
CDN Aviator said:I have no idea what makes you think that. A carrier is not required in order to operate STOVL aircraft. The Harrier after all did not start life as a naval aircraft.
CDN Aviator said:We are already very short naval and air personel so, even though on single carrier, would not require that many people, we dont have enough to man the ships we have now, nevermind adding a major warship.
Then we have to make sure we have enough escort ships.
And of course, a single carrier is not available all the time so you need at least 2 ( 3 is better) so that you always have one available for operations......
Really starts to add up
Steel Horse said:I am assuming this is 10 years down the road at least. The Navy might be very different then it is now.
CDN Aviator said:But, this not being a Navy thread, lets move back to track