George Wallace said:Ummmm? Isn't it the job of Government to make up the Rules?
Don't be silly.....there was a reason heart & soul were sold out to unions......
George Wallace said:Ummmm? Isn't it the job of Government to make up the Rules?
kev994 said:This is absurd! I thought we lived in a democracy, but apparently the government just makes up the rules as they go along.
George Wallace said:Ummmm? Isn't it the job of Government to make up the Rules?
PuckChaser said:As opposed to unelected union bosses pushing whats good for their pocketbooks in order to keep themselves employed? :facepalm:
Occam said:Yes, that's their job. However, previous governments have successfully negotiated collective agreements by following set rules. When another government comes along years later and decides that they don't like the terms of those agreements and consequently changes the rules causing a huge disadvantage to the unions in the collective bargaining process, then there's something seriously wrong. What's worse is that Tony Clement et al honestly think what they're doing is fair.
kev994 said:This is absurd! I thought we lived in a democracy, but apparently the government just makes up the rules as they go along.
George Wallace said:Senior Bureaucrats. They are the ones selling their subordinates down the tubes. With their six or seven figure incomes, they have lost touch with the worker bees who are making the whole machine run.
Jim Seggie said:The government wants to balance the budget and one way is to reduce the SWE.
Occam said:By definition, SWE (Salary and Wage Envelope) doesn't include pension costs and the cost of providing other benefits. Different pots of money entirely.
http://www.oag-bvg.gc.ca/internet/English/att_9801xe05_e_9005.html
Occam said:I don't buy that, George. This is coming from the top. Out of the last Conservative convention came a resolution that the government's agenda was going to address pension and sick leave provisions with the Public Service. I see this as a purely politically motivated move, and the senior bureaucrats are simply being told "This is the way it will be, find a way to make it happen". It's union-busting.
Yes, PSAC agreed to the end of severance, but as I've mentioned before, they were presented with an ultimatum by TB - conceding severance pay was a pre-condition to any other negotiations in the collective bargaining process. Failure to concede on severance would have resulted in an impasse. The government was not bending on it. The only thing you can do in that situation is make sure you get something back in kind.
Taking potshots at pension reform and sick leave benefits has nothing to do with SWE, though. Reducing SWE is being handled through a virtual hiring freeze in the PS, and targetted layoffs. I'm in a section where there are three people doing the work for five positions, and as much as my boss would love to hire some help, his hands are tied. The other two guys working with me are both within grasp of retiring, and if something doesn't change soon they're going to have more than the current two vacant positions to worry about.
Scandal after scandal
However, like every other government seems to do given enough time, they've gotten comfortable, and what's coming out of the CPC trenches isn't "Conservative" as I used to know it.
Rifleman62 said:Do you live in Ontario? Any scandals there to be outraged about? Is the national/local media going ballistic hourly about how the Liberal party is "governing" Ontario.
PuckChaser said:Nope, and they've been blatantly buying elections for a year.
recceguy said:If people don't like what is being offered, they need to go to the polls anyway. Write in who they want, Rhino, Libertarian, whatever. That or just spoil the ballot. That way you're not taking a chance of helping someone not suitable of getting in and your displeasure will be registered instead of being taken as voter apathy.
Jim Seggie said:The last provincial election I voted for the Green candidate.
recceguy said:If you don't agree with their platform, you're cutting your nose off to spite your face.