Hamas invaded Israel 2023

[Cloud Cover]

Add Gustafsen Lake to that. It gets way less attention because media were kept out, but it was absolutely wild. Thousands of rounds fired; it’s miraculous nobody was killed.

A Bison had its feeling hurt …

 

[dimsum]

The same may have been said about Christianity. Catholics and Protestants waged wars on each other for a very long time.

Plus…you know…

 

[OldSolduer]

Plus…you know…

I didn’t expect that

 

[Retired AF Guy]

The same may have been said about Christianity. Catholics and Protestants waged wars on each other for a very long time.

The two main branches of Islam Sunni and Shia have been waging war against each other almost from the getn go.

 

[OldSolduer]

The two main branches of Islam Sunni and Shia have been waging war against each other almost from the getn go.

I read a history of Islam. It seems there is no compromise

 

[brihard]

Israel has struck the Hezbollah central headquarters in Beirut, allegedly buried under several large (now flattened) residential buildings. It’s not clear yet whether Hezbollah leader (since 1992) Hassan Nasrallah was killed in the strike, but I can hardly imagine Israel timing this hit otherwise. Could be a very spicy weekend.

Israel-Lebanon latest: Beirut rocked by multiple blasts as Israel says it attacked Hezbollah headquarters

BBC correspondent in Beirut says ambulances are rushing to the scene in the densely populated district, with images showing widespread destruction.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Remius]

Islam hasn’t really found its reformation point yet.

And to be fair the west shouldn’t accept that as an excuse. No one should be waiting 600 years for them to catch up.

 

[KevinB]

And to be fair the west shouldn’t accept that as an excuse. No one should be waiting 600 years for them to catch up.

IMHO the only way to pull Islam into the 21st Century is to help enable the females. If you can get equality for them, then there is no way to jamming that genie back into the bottle (at least on a large scale), and tolerance to others will eventually leak in.

 

[Edward Campbell]

The Reformation and the consequential Enlightenment in the West were long, complex and at times bloody processes. Both are, arguably, still ongoing.

I highly recommend: https://www.amazon.ca/Reformation-Diarmaid-MacCulloch/dp/014303538X/ref=sr_1_6?crid=1N5JVGHWF5SFM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nVS63PtVhI6HLwxH98fav1fz5FbIHz7P5G-STNDR01VaMvo4TSBTj4W6eU2JtFCEmP2OdYr3AOxXyha3a4EfoqReUAE9o18BtNIKSX1AjgFDFPHLV1FRSC91IoYGkll5Qi8xNGvfRdNAdcSQppd7bw_4xi5092sfU7Vw9GvvPTAhe-a1UYnWkhewc_4CC2aMkcU604G9ro5t5oidJ7uzuNebgcFtJLXCo83knm6pC1Q.FzPe78-Jzfrt1q17VC-gE2FuA7YqkqCqKg5XlT8YzHU&dib_tag=se&keywords=reformation&qid=1727467501&s=books&sprefix=reformation,stripbooks,103&sr=1-6 and https://www.amazon.ca/Oxford-History-Reformation-Peter-Marshall/dp/0192895265/ref=sr_1_4?crid=1N5JVGHWF5SFM&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.nVS63PtVhI6HLwxH98fav1fz5FbIHz7P5G-STNDR01VaMvo4TSBTj4W6eU2JtFCEmP2OdYr3AOxXyha3a4EfoqReUAE9o18BtNIKSX1AjgFDFPHLV1FRSC91IoYGkll5Qi8xNGvfRdNAdcSQppd7bw_4xi5092sfU7Vw9GvvPTAhe-a1UYnWkhewc_4CC2aMkcU604G9ro5t5oidJ7uzuNebgcFtJLXCo83knm6pC1Q.FzPe78-Jzfrt1q17VC-gE2FuA7YqkqCqKg5XlT8YzHU&dib_tag=se&keywords=reformation&qid=1727467528&s=books&sprefix=reformation,stripbooks,103&sr=1-4

Diarmaid MacCulloch is, in my opinion, an absolute "must" if you want to understand Christendom's roots, over 2,500 years ago, and its state, today.

 

[OldSolduer]

The Reformation and the consequential Enlightenment in the West were long, complex and at times bloody processes. Both are, arguably, still ongoing.

I agree. I have listened and read enough history to know that Catholics were often seen as the "right" way to worship and the heathen "Protestants" needed to be eradicated.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Apparently last night the IAF carried out a raid on Hezbollah HQ in Beirut, targeting Hezbollah leader Hassan Nasrallah. Unconfirmed if he was killed or not. More here from the TWZ:

Israel Executes Massive Bunker Buster Strike On Hezbollah Command Headquarters In Beirut (Updated)

Israel targeted Hezbollah's leader in an unprecedented airstrike on a Beirut suburb. Huge explosions rocked the Lebanese capital this afternoon, after airstrikes on Hezbollah’s main military headquarters.

www.twz.com

 

[Quirky]

Lets hope the reports are true.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/top-hezbollah-leaders-unreachable-after-israeli-strike-source-close-to-terror-group/

 

[Colin Parkinson]

Maybe they should try paging them?

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Maybe they should try paging them?

Well played, sir…

 

[KJK]

Maybe they should try paging them?

I would think even a coffee maker would be treated with suspicion at this point.

 

[Remius]

I would think even a coffee maker would be treated with suspicion at this point.

Analog ones at any rate…

 

[OldSolduer]

Maybe they should try paging them?

 

[brihard]

Could be weeks digging out what’s left of that complex.

 

[SeaKingTacco]

Could be weeks digging out what’s left of that complex.

What size of bomb did the IAF use, anyway?

 

[OldSolduer]

I would think even a coffee maker would be treated with suspicion at this point.

Or a toaster.....