Colin Parkinson
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Just watching "Whats up with shipping": about this, Perhaps we can offer to lease a AOP's to them?
HMNZS Manawanui has Sunk!
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I like where your head is at….
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You misspelled "gift two to them".
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That works, too.
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I'm trying to get on the good side of the Coast Guard.
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A pair of lightly used MCDVs might also be welcomed…
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Female British captain’s gender ‘played no part’ in sinking of navy ship
HMNZS Manawanui, which sank on the weekend, is the first ship that New Zealand’s navy has lost at sea since the Second World War
www.telegraph.co.uk
Well sadly I’m not shocked, nor surprised, that the NZ govt had to say it.
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Nicely put into context...
The Defence Minister praised a decision to evacuate the ship, which she again reiterated when asked if she had created the impression of being overly protective of the crew.
"If people had not been evacuated, when they were, we could have been bringing home some body bags," she told Q+A.
"What I said to the Prime Minister is, 'We could've had 75 body bags coming off that flight, and I am just so grateful nobody died. I am devastated by the loss of a ship, but I don't know that I could've coped with 75 body bags."
www.1news.co.nz
The Defence Minister praised a decision to evacuate the ship, which she again reiterated when asked if she had created the impression of being overly protective of the crew.
"If people had not been evacuated, when they were, we could have been bringing home some body bags," she told Q+A.
"What I said to the Prime Minister is, 'We could've had 75 body bags coming off that flight, and I am just so grateful nobody died. I am devastated by the loss of a ship, but I don't know that I could've coped with 75 body bags."
'We could've had 75 body bags': Collins on HMNZS Manawanui sinking
The Defence Minister said a timely evacuation of the ship likely saved lives but hesitated to provide more details amid an active investigation into the sinking.
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Nicely put into context...
The Defence Minister praised a decision to evacuate the ship, which she again reiterated when asked if she had created the impression of being overly protective of the crew.
"If people had not been evacuated, when they were, we could have been bringing home some body bags," she told Q+A.
"What I said to the Prime Minister is, 'We could've had 75 body bags coming off that flight, and I am just so grateful nobody died. I am devastated by the loss of a ship, but I don't know that I could've coped with 75 body bags."
'We could've had 75 body bags': Collins on HMNZS Manawanui sinking
The Defence Minister said a timely evacuation of the ship likely saved lives but hesitated to provide more details amid an active investigation into the sinking.
From the same article; sounds familiar.
The ship ran aground, caught fire, and sunk. People thinking the CO was too soft for evacuating in that situation are idiots, and they probably wouldn't even had 75 body bags as a lot of them would have been trapped in a wreckage if they had waited to evacuate later. When the ship starts to heel over that far or you get flooding holding doors shut people get trapped.
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Not critical of the decision to evacuate, but more interested in the decisions leading to her stranding and sinking.
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Which is completely fair, I think it was the suggestion that it was because the CO was a woman was dumb.
No one said much about the CO of the Helge Ingstad deciding to evacuate, even though they could have saved the ship if they had done the flood control differently. The various investigation reports from Norway was pretty clear that they were taking it as lessons learned for future events, not criticizing the decision, which you can always second guess an pick apart when not in the moment.
Similarly interested in the same, and what kind of damage they took to sink like that, but glad everyone made it off safely.
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As am I.
One of the stupidest suggestions along with this theme I've seen: The captain is a lesbian and that is why this ship sank. Completely and utterly irrelevant.
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Not to Reverend Jerry Falwell!
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I say there Chap, why are there towing hooks fastened to the back of your F35B?
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Loose lips sink ….. something something …
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Weather, poor judgement and possibly mechanical issues led to the Loss of the NZ ship. The Helge Ingstad was lost do mostly to poor judgement and procedures. Weather was not much of a factor.
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The inquiry begins
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New Zealand Defence Force Launches Formal Inquiry into 'Manawanui' Sinking, VDR Recovered
The New Zealand Defence Force (NZDF) has initiated a comprehensive Court of Inquiry (COI) to investigate the sinking of HMNZS Manawanui, a dive and hydrographic ship that struck a reef...
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There was also some design issues with the way the hollow shaft was built that they fixed in other ships in the class by adding a blank flange at some of the connection points so it wasn't a giant penetration that allowed progressive flooding through some of the access ports. I think that came up in some possible discussions of lawsuits against the class society for signing off on the design for the shaft.
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Must pick up more popcorn....
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