"Names of 425,000 suspected Nazi collaborators (in Holland) published"

[The Bread Guy]

Holy "uncomfortable conversations about grandpa/grandma", Bat Man ....

Netherlands: 425,000 suspected Nazi collaborators' names published

The names of Dutch people investigated for working with the Nazis during World War 2 are available online for the first time.

www.bbc.com

The records have always been available, but now, you don't have to visit the archives anymore to see then in hard copy - drop on in online!

 

[Blackadder1916]

As appropriate . . .

 

[OldSolduer]

Holy "uncomfortable conversations about grandpa/grandma", Bat Man ....

Netherlands: 425,000 suspected Nazi collaborators' names published

The names of Dutch people investigated for working with the Nazis during World War 2 are available online for the first time.

www.bbc.com

The records have always been available, but now, you don't have to visit the archives anymore to see then in hard copy - drop on in online!

That could cause some angst around the table.....

 

[daftandbarmy]

Holy "uncomfortable conversations about grandpa/grandma", Bat Man ....

Netherlands: 425,000 suspected Nazi collaborators' names published

The names of Dutch people investigated for working with the Nazis during World War 2 are available online for the first time.

www.bbc.com

The records have always been available, but now, you don't have to visit the archives anymore to see then in hard copy - drop on in online!

And then there's France, and the myth of the French resistance ...

France: Past Imperfect -- Still-Unresolved Past Haunts Nation​

More than most Western nations, France is a country obsessed with the memory of its history -- recent, revolutionary, and ancient. Yet, paradoxically, the country has yet to come to terms with much of its past.

France: Past Imperfect -- Still-Unresolved Past Haunts Nation (Part 7)

More than most Western nations, France is a country obsessed with the memory of its history -- recent, revolutionary, and ancient. Yet, paradoxically, the country has yet to come to terms with much of its past. Paris, 19 July 2002 (RFE/RL) -- It is France's revolutionary and post-World War...

www.rferl.org

 

[OldSolduer]

And then there's France, and the myth of the French resistance ...

France: Past Imperfect -- Still-Unresolved Past Haunts Nation​

More than most Western nations, France is a country obsessed with the memory of its history -- recent, revolutionary, and ancient. Yet, paradoxically, the country has yet to come to terms with much of its past.

France: Past Imperfect -- Still-Unresolved Past Haunts Nation (Part 7)

More than most Western nations, France is a country obsessed with the memory of its history -- recent, revolutionary, and ancient. Yet, paradoxically, the country has yet to come to terms with much of its past. Paris, 19 July 2002 (RFE/RL) -- It is France's revolutionary and post-World War...

www.rferl.org

Pretty much every European nation had their collaborators. We had Nazi sympathizers too.

 

[Furniture]

Holy "uncomfortable conversations about grandpa/grandma", Bat Man ....

Netherlands: 425,000 suspected Nazi collaborators' names published

The names of Dutch people investigated for working with the Nazis during World War 2 are available online for the first time.

www.bbc.com

The records have always been available, but now, you don't have to visit the archives anymore to see then in hard copy - drop on in online!

I don't know that there is much value in these sorts of declassifications beyond general interest.

Blaming people for the sins of their ancestors is a path toward middle eastern conflicts...

As an example, as a man of Scottish descent, I could easily hold a grudge against the English, and the French. The English oppressed my ancestors, while the the French promised help but never really followed through. Instead I look past the ancient grudges, and appreciate both Sheppard's Pie and tourtiere.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Holy "uncomfortable conversations about grandpa/grandma", Bat Man ....

Netherlands: 425,000 suspected Nazi collaborators' names published

The names of Dutch people investigated for working with the Nazis during World War 2 are available online for the first time.

www.bbc.com

The records have always been available, but now, you don't have to visit the archives anymore to see then in hard copy - drop on in online!

I find the number of ‘20,000’ who joined the SS or such as too low.
I’m assuming that number includes only those that joined ‘German’ armed formations and it doesn’t include those that joined the Dutch SS formations.

 

[The Bread Guy]

I don't know that there is much value in these sorts of declassifications beyond general interest.

They've been declassified for some time, but now, people don't have to work as hard to find the info. Just what we need in a weaponized info-space these days: more food for the "they were a Nazi!" beast.

 

[daftandbarmy]

They've been declassified for some time, but now, people don't have to work as hard to find the info. Just what we need in a weaponized info-space these days: more food for the "they were a Nazi!" beast.

And - most infamously - Ann Frank was Dutch, snitched out by neighbours.

My Dad was in Holland with 3rd Div in 1944 and they had trouble stopping the locals from seeking ‘justice’ against collaborators. Lots of bodies turned up in the mornings.

They keep those grudges going too, according to a guy I know with family ties there, and who can blame them really.

 

[The Bread Guy]

... My Dad was in Holland with 3rd Div in 1944 and they had trouble stopping the locals from seeking ‘justice’ against collaborators. Lots of bodies turned up in the mornings ...

Legend has it DeGaulle gave all the resistance players 24 hours to "settle the accounts" before it all officially being over.

 

[Kirkhill]

Reality is that the industrial and governmental structures of the nations of Europe did not change on 8 May 1945. The players didn't change. Some re-education programmes and some new ration cards and it became pretty clear what words were necessary to survive the "regime change", even when there was no regime change. Same factories, same bosses, same police, same courts - and in many cases, same politicians.

Tell me again what the words liberal and democrat mean to you.

 

[Czech_pivo]

Reality is that the industrial and governmental structures of the nations of Europe did not change on 8 May 1945. The players didn't change. Some re-education programmes and some new ration cards and it became pretty clear what words were necessary to survive the "regime change", even when there was no regime change. Same factories, same bosses, same police, same courts - and in many cases, same politicians.

Tell me again what the words liberal and democrat mean to you.

lol, the same thing occurred in 1989 in pretty much every former Warsaw Block country.