Op UNIFIER - CAF and the Ukraine Crisis

[KevinB]

Two different takes on what should be done.

How might allies respond if Russia invades Ukraine?

NATO needs to plan beyond efforts to deter another Russian invasion of Ukraine and recognize that its actual response may differ depending on the extent of Russian military operations.

www.defensenews.com

How to avoid disaster in Ukraine

Definitively stating that Ukraine will not be offered NATO membership not only enhances U.S. security by reducing the likelihood of a U.S.-Russia war — it also addresses the root cause of the war in Ukraine.

www.defensenews.com

 

[MilEME09]

Russia threatens to deploy nukes in Europe

Russia said on Monday that it may deploy nuclear missiles in Europe because it claims NATO is doing the same. Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told

americanmilitarynews.com

Well that just escalated

 

[Good2Golf]

Russia threatens to deploy nukes in Europe

Russia said on Monday that it may deploy nuclear missiles in Europe because it claims NATO is doing the same. Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told

americanmilitarynews.com

Well that just escalated

You mean relative from Russia saying week ago it was putting the majority of its SSBN fleet to sea?

The U.S. and NATO have increased naval activity and aerial patrols in the region, which Russia has claimed is a “provocation” and separately threatened “dangerous consequences” for continuing that action.

What if people just ignored the Russian propaganda…

 

[Weinie]

You mean relative from Russia saying week ago it was putting the majority of its SSBN fleet to sea?



What if people just ignored the Russian propaganda…

Maskirovka.

 

[MilEME09]

What if people just ignored the Russian propaganda…

Too late for that, they already won that battle, how? Evidence points to the vast majority of anti covid vaccine mantra is being coming out of Russia and China. The intended goal has likely been to destabilize western society, and it has also created a large sector of the population that doesn't trust the government. So in us vs them do you think they people who already dint trust us will believe us on Russia?

 

[Czech_pivo]

Russia threatens to deploy nukes in Europe

Russia said on Monday that it may deploy nuclear missiles in Europe because it claims NATO is doing the same. Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told

americanmilitarynews.com

Well that just escalated

A vaguely written article with no definition of what is constituted as being 'Europe'. Any INF west of the Urals would be within the geographic region of Europe.

 

[MilEME09]

A vaguely written article with no definition of what is constituted as being 'Europe'. Any INF west of the Urals would be within the geographic region of Europe.

Russia says it may be forced to deploy INF in Europe

Official says intermediate-range nuclear missiles could be deployed if NATO refused to engage with Moscow.

www.google.com

Al Jazeera ain't much better for detail, though I would guess given the range of INF, we are talking a stones throw of Poland.

 

[QV]

Too late for that, they already won that battle, how? Evidence points to the vast majority of anti covid vaccine mantra is being coming out of Russia and China. The intended goal has likely been to destabilize western society, and it has also created a large sector of the population that doesn't trust the government. So in us vs them do you think they people who already dint trust us will believe us on Russia?

Curious, did that come from the same people who said Trump colluded with the Russians or Rittenhouse went on a racist shooting spree.. or, or, or...?

In the last 5 years our own governments, institutions, and media have done more damage to themselves through crap messaging, crap policies, and antics worthy of distrust.

 

[Eye In The Sky]

...Russia and China. The intended goal has likely been to destabilize western society...

I thought that was the goal of the PPC and Greta Thunberg? Hmmm...learn something every day.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Specifically on OP Unifier ...

Ottawa is poised to extend a military training mission in Ukraine for another six months and is mulling whether to expand the number of soldier-trainers deployed and provide Kyiv with defensive weapons and gear, two government sources say.

Measures under consideration by the Liberal cabinet include small arms as well as night goggles, helmets, armoured vests and military radios for Ukraine’s armed forces. Also on the table is providing intelligence and cybersecurity advice, likely through Canada’s signal intelligence agency known as the Communications Security Establishment.

And Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said Wednesday that Ottawa is also drawing up a list of economic sanctions that would be imposed on Moscow if Russia launches a military offensive against Ukraine ...

This version from UKR media ...

he Canadian military training mission UNIFIER, operating in Ukraine, will be extended for another six months.

That’s according to the Globe and Mail, citing its own sources in the Canadian government, Ukrinform reports.

Besides prolonging the mandate of the military training mission, the government is now considering increasing the number of instructors and sending defense weapons and equipment to Kyiv, the report said ...

 

[daftandbarmy]

Specifically on OP Unifier ...

This version from UKR media ...

Based on the relative sizes and readiness levels of our armies, I'd expect Canada to ask them for some help:



Due to ongoing hostilities with Russia, Ukraine increased the size of its armed forces to 204,000 soldiers (+46,000 civil servants) in 2014, not counting additional military forces such as the border guards (53,000), the newly formed National Guard of Ukraine (60,000) or the security service.[12] The size of Ukraine's armed forces, which maintains a 255,000 man force, is the third-largest in Europe after the Russian and French Armed Forces.[13] It was reported that Ukraine's military swelled to 280,000 personnel. This was largely achieved by the repeated waves of mobilization bringing in new recruits while older soldiers had not yet been demobilized, the state budget for 2015 ultimately called for a force of 230,000. Hryhoriy Pedchenko reported that 51% of Ukraine's enlisted personnel were contracted soldiers.[14][15]

Armed Forces of Ukraine - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Czech_pivo]

Specifically on OP Unifier ...

This version from UKR media ...

This is great! We're sending them the Rangers' old Enfield's! Or, maybe we can collect all the Nagant's that we've bought off them over the last decade + and send them all back.
If we send them all the old Brownings then we'll have to replace them all and they can do a single source contract.

 

[McG]

National Guard of Ukraine

Contrary to the linked Wikipedia article, the NGU is not a reserve force nor even part of the armed forces. It is the national gendarmerie under the MoI … but it does have mechanized battlegroups and its own SOF.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Contrary to the linked Wikipedia article, the NGU is not a reserve force nor even part of the armed forces. It is the national gendarmerie under the MoI … but it does have mechanized battlegroups and its own SOF.

Just sayin'

 

[dimsum]

This is great! We're sending them the Rangers' old Enfield's! Or, maybe we can collect all the Nagant's that we've bought off them over the last decade + and send them all back.
If we send them all the old Brownings then we'll have to replace them all and they can do a single source contract.

I'd be more interested to hear (although we never will) about CSE's int and cybersecurity advice. Anyone can send guns.

 

[MilEME09]

Canadian-led battlegroup in Latvia at 'high readiness' amid NATO-Russia tensions

The Canadian commander of a multinational battlegroup in Latvia says he is working to ensure his troops have enough supplies and can talk to each other, as mounting tensions between the NATO military alliance and Russia feed fears of a new war in Europe.

www.ctvnews.ca

Prep for battle as some would say.

 

[Rifleman62]

Measures under consideration by the Liberal cabinet include small arms as well as night goggles, helmets, armoured vests and military radios for Ukraine’s armed forces. Also on the table is providing intelligence and cybersecurity advice, likely through Canada’s signal intelligence agency known as the Communications Security Establishment.

Sounds like withdrawing all the equipment from the Regular Force. Now they will know what is like in the Molitia.

 

[dimsum]

Sounds like withdrawing all the equipment from the Regular Force. Now they will know what is like in the Molitia.

Can't complain about old equipment if you don't have any equipment

 

[Jarnhamar]

Canadian-led battlegroup in Latvia at 'high readiness' amid NATO-Russia tensions

The Canadian commander of a multinational battlegroup in Latvia says he is working to ensure his troops have enough supplies and can talk to each other, as mounting tensions between the NATO military alliance and Russia feed fears of a new war in Europe.

www.ctvnews.ca

Prep for battle as some would say.

Canadian-led battlegroup in Latvia at 'high readiness' amid NATO-Russia tensions

The Canadian commander of a multinational battlegroup in Latvia says he is working to ensure his troops have enough supplies and can talk to each other

I wouldn't consider working secure supplies and communications weeks or days before a tentative H-Hour as being at "high readiness".

 

[MilEME09]

I wouldn't consider working secure supplies and communications weeks or days before a tentative H-Hour as being at "high readiness".

Depends, if you know an attack is coming, you will stock up as much as possible in anticipation that your supply lines may be cut.