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MilEME09 said:
That's Treasury Board/Government of Canada's plan. There's not enough money or political will to do 2 major purchases like that in short order.
Opportunity to update the CC-150 fleet?
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That's Treasury Board/Government of Canada's plan. There's not enough money or political will to do 2 major purchases like that in short order.
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You may wish to consult the investment plan before making pronouncements.
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How often have we seen those dates shift? I have 0 confidence PSPC/TB/DND will adhere to those timelines and be able to deliver 2 capital aircraft projects simultaneously.
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PuckChaser said:
Not to mention CSC is suppose to hit the water at that time, among other projects, the 2020's is suppose to delivery a lot of projects across the board, after a pandemic I have my doubts we will get any unless it means major jobs
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some parts planes for us to pick up cheap
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36304/iran-air-is-selling-off-part-of-its-fleet-of-vintage-western-airliners
https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/36304/iran-air-is-selling-off-part-of-its-fleet-of-vintage-western-airliners
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Mercedes Stephenson is reporting that the project is moving forward.
https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1339697779002773509?s=19
Background from the last budget:
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/reports-publications/proactive-disclosure/supplementary-budget-b-2019-2020/other-issues/procurement-air.html#toc4
https://twitter.com/MercedesGlobal/status/1339697779002773509?s=19
Background from the last budget:
https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/corporate/reports-publications/proactive-disclosure/supplementary-budget-b-2019-2020/other-issues/procurement-air.html#toc4
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There should be two each in cold Lake, Bagotville and Trenton to support arctic intercept response. I'm not convinced the tanker Hercs are fast or long-legged enough for an adequate tactical response. It's our arctic, we shouldn't have to rely on US for fuel. At the very least two in Winnipeg (split the east-west distance).
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No tanker Hercs.
There are advantages of the Herc; shorter runway for one. You can fuel it and send it back up rather quickly. You can send it to a short runway and offload a bunch of army dudes...lenaitch said:
It’s pretty long legged but slow compared to a fighter, but with any tanker the further you go the less you can give away.
Edit: I should note that the herc is a tactical tanker, Polaris is a strategic tanker. Different purposes. If you’re doing it right you wouldn’t need a herc to go faster.
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dapaterson said:
I think our biggest challenge right now, in implementing SSE, is the lack of staff-power in the procurement shops to push all those files. We have a finite number of people that can generate a finite amount of work. All the files are important but require a significant amount of staff-power. Because it is going forward and that it is approved in the budget doesn't mean it won't stall at some point in the process (not because we don't want/don't have the money to buy the equipment but because we lack the people to push the ball forward). I believe CGAI (Jeffrey Collins) and Doug Dempster wrote about this.
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Realistically there's only 2 bidders: Boeing KC-46A and Airbus A330 MRTT. The Airbus seems to be able to hold far more pax when it's configured that way and Boeing is struggling with multiple issues: https://www.military.com/daily-news/2020/03/31/air-forces-troubled-kc-46-tanker-has-new-problem-leaking-fuel.html
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SupersonicMax said:
From all the reports over the last couple of years it's possible that the Polaris fleet is not giving us the option of time to work the file.
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lenaitch said:
The KC-46 is a wide body 767, I would think if anyone was trying to get rid of some planes they would be the 737's. Can the 737's be converted? Would it be beneficial?
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lenaitch said:
suffolkowner said:
For the in-service
Buying off the line, keeping Canadianizing to the roundel and possibly a few safety stickers in French, and keeping hardware in step with other users is a great way to get more affordable equipment with maintenance support in the long term. Orphan fleets are costly to maintain and sustain... and you can end up beholden to a single supplier who never, ever, every delivers your
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lenaitch said:
Airbus actually builds the A330 MRTT as a Civilian A330-200, and then it's converted in Spain for Military use. Spanish Air Force was planning on procuring some from Iberia Airlines and converting them, probably a decent cost savings there without much of a capability loss other than the flight hours already on the airframe especially if we want to capitalize on the downturn in the airlines due to COVID.
