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ArmyVern said:... my grandfather is a direct descendant of the last heretic burned at the stake in England ... :
Baptists, are you?
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Baptists, are you?
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E.R. Campbell said:
Since 11 April 1612!!
Interesting that most of the long list of his theological crimes pertained to his rejection of the Trinity and of infant baptism ...
that a great many of his descendants (& that true blue Tory Wightman below) would now attend Trinity-St Stephen United Church - where, of course, communion is undertaken. Yes, dear Catholics - there are indeed other religions which undertake this ritual (intended as an aside for those catholics who screamed bloody murder about PM Harper "taking communion" when it was a "Catholic"-only ritual).
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ArmyVern said:
Since the thread has spiraled......
The Catholics who "screamed bloody murder" did not do so because Communion is a Catholic-only ritual, they were not impressed because Stephen Harper was neither baptized nor confirmed in the Catholic church; two rituals you must go through before you can receive Communion.
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PMedMoe said:
No,
The act of not receiving the communion properly, is what the uproar was about.
The report, which was debunked, claimed he placed the host in his pocket. The host represents Jesus, and him pocketing the "wafer", would have been an insult to the image of Christ.
Anyone, who wishes to receive the body if Christ may do so.
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PMedMoe said:
No. Some of them were screaming about "why would he ever go up for communion even if he did consume the wafer - he's not a Catholic."
My point is, Catholics are not the only religion that undergo communion - and it seems many of them believed theirs was the only religion to do so. They complained that "As the PM, Harper should have at least had the common respect as the PM to learn about this "Catholic" ritual before heading up for communion" or "He's not a Catholic, he should never have taken it in the first place." To which Harper replied that he had been invited up to undertake it by the Priest. Apparently, some of those same screamers need to also find the common respect enough to learn that their own religion does not have sole "dibs" on this ritual.
Hmmmmn
Harper accepted the communion host at a Roman Catholic funeral service held for former governor general Romeo LeBlanc, not putting it in his mouth immediately. Why the non-Catholic was put in the position of accepting the host in the first place is unclear.
Many comments like that (in the non-Catholics do not participate in Communion - which is not factual and that's my point):
The above is from the article, but if you go through the comments to it - it's kind of funny how many Catholics really do think that theirs is the only religion that practices Communion. If you re-read my post you'll see that I was referring to those Catholics who DID scream bloody murder about PM Harper taking Communion due to his not being Catholic - utilizing statements such as "only Catholics practise Communion, he should have had enough respect for us to learn that prior to attending".
I was baptized, yet never confirmed - yet I can receive Communion.
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Obviously, this needs to be split but I'm done anyway. I'm a lapsed Catholic and do not profess to have any expertise regarding this issue, only what I know from my upbringing.
I wouldn't put too much faith (pun not intended) into the comments from the mob on a newspaper article. Catholic or not, I suspect that most of these people are wearing a tin foil hat or, at the very least, blinders. Look at the stupid comments on the CBC story about the Miramichi firm getting the contract for the military shelters.
And yes, I know Catholicism isn't the only religion to offer Communion. I've been to other church services.
I wouldn't put too much faith (pun not intended) into the comments from the mob on a newspaper article. Catholic or not, I suspect that most of these people are wearing a tin foil hat or, at the very least, blinders. Look at the stupid comments on the CBC story about the Miramichi firm getting the contract for the military shelters.
And yes, I know Catholicism isn't the only religion to offer Communion. I've been to other church services.
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The priest went up to him, knowing he was not a Catholic, and gave him the communion.
It was the reports of him pocketing the host that caused a stir, and some misinterpreted the act and said he could not because he is not a Catholic.
Anyone can receive the host, although there are "strict" rules when one should (the soul must be cleansed, by confession, hence the first confession is done at your First communion not confirmation Moe you heathen).
BTW, I have not been going to mass, well since last year, although Niner and the kids go every Sunday. So I have been "Shunned".
I was thinking of following Odin and Thor, or becoming Amish. I like their Hats and Beards.
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It was the reports of him pocketing the host that caused a stir, and some misinterpreted the act and said he could not because he is not a Catholic.
Anyone can receive the host, although there are "strict" rules when one should (the soul must be cleansed, by confession, hence the first confession is done at your First communion not confirmation Moe you heathen).
BTW, I have not been going to mass, well since last year, although Niner and the kids go every Sunday. So I have been "Shunned".
I was thinking of following Odin and Thor, or becoming Amish. I like their Hats and Beards.
dileas
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PMedMoe said:
I'm a lapsed ... athiest. I do know that my boyfriend - the good french Catholic boy that he is - went up to receive Communion with my grandparents on Christmas Eve (I stayed seated on the pew...)
Good story from that evening at church. Apparently, the UCC in Amherst "lends" it's venue to the Catholics in Amherst for the Catholic Midnight Mass ceremony because their own Catholic Church is too small a venue for such an important night and attendance is full.
They head up for Communion and return to their pews ... my grandfather on one end, my mom, me, kids, BF, aunts, uncles, imbeciles in the middle and then my grandmother on the other end ... the ceremony concludes.
Grandpa leans down and states "Hurry up Muriel (grandma) and Darrell, let's get out of here before the Catholics raid us". Vern leans over and says to Grandpa "Hey Ralph --- we've already got a spy in the midst of us; Darrell is a Catholic!!" Grandpa says: "Well leave him here then." I really had to convince Darrell that Grandpa was just being ... well - like a typical Wightman (ie "me" 8))
Christmas day, phone rings and I answer. It's Grandpa. "Merry Christmas Grandpa." "Merry Christmas Ronnie - is Darrell there?" "Yes he is." "Good, put him on then." 1/2 hour later Darrell gets off the phone & nary another pers got to speak with grandpa. I said "See?? You're in."
Weird family have I. No wonder I'm the way I am. ;D
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PMedMoe said:
No offense to anyone here but i refer to it "enlightened catholic" as in "i am enlightened enough to have let go of this God stuff"
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ArmyVern said:
I am Catholic too.
Is that all it took to be in.
Eating a tasteless wafer......
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PMedMoe said:
I developed a problem with both years and years ago.
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CDN Aviator said:
No offense intended here, either. I'm an "enlightened atheist" - as in enlightened enough not to disparage others' (especially my friends and neighbours) beliefs.
And Tess: I've already got a beard - you've already got some hats - maybe together we're Amish?
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