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Russia in the 21st Century [Superthread]

Putin wants a nuclear war. It’s the only explanation at this point for continuing to directly test NATO’s limits. His conventional forces have catastrophically failed and he needs to win a war so the Russian population won’t burn him on a cross. His nuclear forces are still untested. Maybe he can win, or maybe he will at least die quickly.
 
McG said:
Putin wants a nuclear war. It’s the only explanation at this point for continuing to directly test NATO’s limits. His conventional forces have catastrophically failed and he needs to win a war so the Russian population won’t burn him on a cross. His nuclear forces are still untested. Maybe he can win, or maybe he will at least die quickly.
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His supporters and generals may have no issues sending Russians to slaughter, but I doubt they would be so willing to back him up on nukes.

Maybe Medvedev, but he spouts weird stuff all the time.
 
dimsum said:
His supporters and generals may have no issues sending Russians to slaughter, but I doubt they would be so willing to back him up on nukes.

Maybe Medvedev, but he spouts weird stuff all the time.
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I’m sure he knows his environment. He’s not going straight to nukes. He is raising the water temperature and setting the conditions to get his generals to where they will be supportive. He knows that factory bombings, GPS spoofing vs commercial airlines, cyber attacks, deep sea infrastructure mining, and satellite meddling will inevitably bring a western response from which he can further escalate.
 
McG said:
I’m sure he knows his environment. He’s not going straight to nukes. He is raising the water temperature and setting the conditions to get his generals to where they will be supportive. He knows that factory bombings, GPS spoofing vs commercial airlines, cyber attacks, deep sea infrastructure mining, and satellite meddling will inevitably bring a western response from which he can further escalate.
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What's the point in a nuclear war though ? It just kills everyone. Unless he just wants to burn the whole place down using nuc's boggles my mind.

And I am doubtful that we could maintain a 'limited exchange' or 'tactical nukes only' approach. Humans just aren't that calm, cool and collected.
 
Halifax Tar said:
What's the point in a nuclear war though ? It just kills everyone. Unless he just wants to burn the whole place down using nuc's boggles my mind.
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He already has his country in a meat grinder that he does not know how to get out of. If he doesn’t figure out a win, Russians will hand him an ending like that of Mussolini or Gaddafi. For a desperate dictator, burning down the world is not necessarily that bad if you think you can pull your personal survival from it.

A nuclear war is not inevitable, but avoiding it probably requires being more escalatory now. Show the sane people in the room that there are lines which will draw lethal force when crossed. Attribution is not enough, because Russia denies and does it again.
 
Stone the crows.... a 40 year old Private? ;)

Australian soldier charged with spying for Russia​


An Australian soldier and her husband have been arrested and each charged with spying for Russia.

Investigators say the couple - both Russian-born Australian citizens - obtained Australian Defence Force (ADF) material to share with Moscow.

However, Australian police say "no significant compromise" of military secrets has been identified.

It is the first time stricter foreign interference laws - introduced by Australia in 2018 - have been used to lay espionage charges.

Kira Korolev, a 40-year-old army private, and her 62-year-old husband Igor Korolev faced court in Brisbane on Friday, each on one count of preparing for an espionage offence – which carries a maximum 15-year jail sentence.

www.bbc.com

Australian soldier charged with spying for Russia

Kira Korolev and her husband, both Russian-born Australian citizens, allegedly stole military secrets.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
I certainly hope "no significant military secrets were compromise": She was a goddamn private FFS! I would fully expect that no one at that rank is given any access to significant military secrets.
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Clerks, Int Ops, technicians of various types... Lots of privates have access to secrets.
 
Oldgateboatdriver said:
Yes, but at those rank, I would certainly not expect them to have access to the "military significant ones".
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Maps, reports, technical specifications of weapons systems can all be "military significant information" managed and/or held by Privates.
 
daftandbarmy said:
Stone the crows.... a 40 year old Private? ;)

Australian soldier charged with spying for Russia​


An Australian soldier and her husband have been arrested and each charged with spying for Russia.

Investigators say the couple - both Russian-born Australian citizens - obtained Australian Defence Force (ADF) material to share with Moscow.

However, Australian police say "no significant compromise" of military secrets has been identified.

It is the first time stricter foreign interference laws - introduced by Australia in 2018 - have been used to lay espionage charges.

Kira Korolev, a 40-year-old army private, and her 62-year-old husband Igor Korolev faced court in Brisbane on Friday, each on one count of preparing for an espionage offence – which carries a maximum 15-year jail sentence.

www.bbc.com

Australian soldier charged with spying for Russia

Kira Korolev and her husband, both Russian-born Australian citizens, allegedly stole military secrets.
www.bbc.com www.bbc.com
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From AUS media ...
www.abc.net.au

Russian-Australian woman charged with spying offences was well-travelled, made lifestyle videos

Kira Korolev and her husband Igor mostly kept to themselves", say neighbours, who are surprised their unit complex is now the centre of a national espionage investigation.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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Of course, none of the allegations have been proven in court at this point.
 
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