Special Service Medal - Domestic Operations Bar

[PrairieFella]

You should send that to the incoming government, namely individual MPs like Pierre Poilieve and maybe Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman, Shadow Defense Minister James Bezan, Todd Doherty sponsor of Bill C-386, and any others like the Shadow Ministers for Public Services and Procurement, Veterans Affairs, Emergency Preparedness, Public Safety, and maybe their associate ministers as well.

Or perhaps we could do a mass mailing project where we each mail them letters about this.

James Bezan especially. He's generally pretty receptive to talking with service members.

 

[daftandbarmy]

Meanwhile, in the USA.... the MCM!

 

[Blackadder1916]

Meanwhile, in the USA.... the MCM!

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And the good idea fairy has already migrated northward.

Medals for Children initiative looks to expand eastward | Trident Newspaper

Medals for Children initiative looks to expand eastward By Peter Mallet, The Lookout Staff, A non-profit that awards medals to children of deployed Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) sailors will expand its reach to Atlantic Canada by the end of this year. Medals for Children, an initiative launched in...

tridentnewspaper.com

 

[Halifax Tar]

We've done miny medals my last two deployments.

 

[ueo]

You should send that to the incoming government, namely individual MPs like Pierre Poilieve and maybe Deputy Leader Melissa Lantsman, Shadow Defense Minister James Bezan, Todd Doherty sponsor of Bill C-386, and any others like the Shadow Ministers for Public Services and Procurement, Veterans Affairs, Emergency Preparedness, Public Safety, and maybe their associate ministers as well.

Or perhaps we could do a mass mailing project where we each mail them letters about this.

Cp on strike, email word filters etc

 

[Humphrey Bogart]

Meanwhile, in the USA.... the MCM!

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Americans look ridiculous

Straight up North Korea vibes is what it's becoming.

 

[brihard]

Americans look ridiculous

Straight up North Korea vibes is what it's becoming.

I find it weird that they give out a bunch of ribbons that aren’t associated with medals. And for stuff that in CAF would generate nothing more than a course report and a couple merit board points.

 

[daftandbarmy]

I find it weird that they give out a bunch of ribbons that aren’t associated with medals. And for stuff that in CAF would generate nothing more than a course report and a couple merit board points.

Republicans need the inspiration to serve

 

[dimsum]

I find it weird that they give out a bunch of ribbons that aren’t associated with medals. And for stuff that in CAF would generate nothing more than a course report and a couple merit board points.

Well at least they stopped giving out a medal for joining up when there was already a war going on for the past 20-ish years.

End of an Era: The National Defense Service Medal

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[Grunt_031]

A Domestic Ops bar to the SSM would suffice for the purpose for recognition in Canada.
For service to Canada ,a insignia ( on the uniform) or pin ( Civilian wear) is sufficient not a medal. Once you reach CD you can remove.

It is simple to say that everybody deserves recognition. How much and how often. People get cranky because they did more than others. They want to have separate recognition for more "sacrifice" on their part. Thats is how we got the current medal rotation bars and OSM, because people that went more than once thought that people should know. Then it degrades to the sub groups of people that were outside the wire that wanted another recognition to separate them from the inside wire people. Then the ones who were in direct combat from the others that were not. etc etc

Whatever gets done there will be somebody unhappy, in both directions.

The term "quiet professional" is slowly fading to same place as common sense.

 

[daftandbarmy]

A Domestic Ops bar to the SSM would suffice for the purpose for recognition in Canada.
For service to Canada ,a insignia ( on the uniform) or pin ( Civilian wear) is sufficient not a medal. Once you reach CD you can remove.

It is simple to say that everybody deserves recognition. How much and how often. People get cranky because they did more than others. They want to have separate recognition for more "sacrifice" on their part. Thats is how we got the current medal rotation bars and OSM, because people that went more than once thought that people should know. Then it degrades to the sub groups of people that were outside the wire that wanted another recognition to separate them from the inside wire people. Then the ones who were in direct combat from the others that were not. etc etc

Whatever gets done there will be somebody unhappy, in both directions.

The term "quiet professional" is slowly fading to same place as common sense.

The first reading for this proposed medal was last March...

C-386 ,44th Parliament, 1st sessionMonday, November 22, 2021, to present​

An Act respecting the establishment and award of a Special Service Medal for Domestic Emergency Relief Operations
Short title: Special Service Medal for Domestic Emergency Relief Operations Act

C-386 (44-1) - LEGISinfo - Parliament of Canada

C-386 (44-1) - LEGISinfo - Parliament of Canada

www.parl.ca

 

[PrairieFella]

A Domestic Ops bar to the SSM would suffice for the purpose for recognition in Canada.
For service to Canada ,a insignia ( on the uniform) or pin ( Civilian wear) is sufficient not a medal. Once you reach CD you can remove.

It is simple to say that everybody deserves recognition. How much and how often. People get cranky because they did more than others. They want to have separate recognition for more "sacrifice" on their part. Thats is how we got the current medal rotation bars and OSM, because people that went more than once thought that people should know. Then it degrades to the sub groups of people that were outside the wire that wanted another recognition to separate them from the inside wire people. Then the ones who were in direct combat from the others that were not. etc etc

Whatever gets done there will be somebody unhappy, in both directions.

The term "quiet professional" is slowly fading to same place as common sense.

We're allowed to have more than one medal than the SSM. It's kinda ridiculous the amount of bars it has already, nevermind adding another one.

 

[Furniture]

We're allowed to have more than one medal than the SSM. It's kinda ridiculous the amount of bars it has already, nevermind adding another one.

That would go against CAF tradition, we need to do the least possible to recognize people so we don't look too "American"...

 

[Maxman1]

We're allowed to have more than one medal than the SSM. It's kinda ridiculous the amount of bars it has already, nevermind adding another one.

And several bars have been spun off to their own medal, or been replaced by a foreign award.

Peacekeeping - replaced by the Peacekeeping Medal effective 2001
Humanitarian - Replaced by the Huminitas ribbon on the OSM effective 2009
Pakistan 1989-90 - no longer issued, recipients can exchange it for the UN Special Service Medal
Yugoslavia - never issued, was almost immediately superceded by the European Community Moniter Mission Medal

 

[Grunt_031]

That would go against CAF tradition, we need to do the least possible to recognize people so we don't look too "American"...

Recognition is very important but what is enough. The standard in the past would be a certificate (for your love me wall) and maybe a t-shirt or a coin. Now it is I want to wear my resume on my body to the level of my experience.

 

[Furniture]

Recognition is very important but what is enough. The standard in the past would be a certificate (for your love me wall) and maybe a t-shirt or a coin. Now it is I want to wear my resume on my body to the level of my experience.

Alternatively, it's "I want something official to recognize my service", because some got a certificate and coin while others got nothing at all. Make it an actual standard, and make it official.

The bolded line comes across as someone pouting because they don't want anyone else to seem more "special" then them... Troops getting recognition that they can wear doesn't diminish your service. I don't sulk around NDHQ upset because there are divers, boarding party, submariners, jumpers, etc... walking around with bling I don't have.

 

[Colin Parkinson]

And the good idea fairy has already migrated northward.

Medals for Children initiative looks to expand eastward | Trident Newspaper

Medals for Children initiative looks to expand eastward By Peter Mallet, The Lookout Staff, A non-profit that awards medals to children of deployed Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) sailors will expand its reach to Atlantic Canada by the end of this year. Medals for Children, an initiative launched in...

tridentnewspaper.com

They just introduced a 2 year service medal for Navy League Cadets, that is worn on the right side.

 

[dimsum]

Alternatively, it's "I want something official to recognize my service", because some got a certificate and coin while others got nothing at all. Make it an actual standard, and make it official.

The bolded line comes across as someone pouting because they don't want anyone else to seem more "special" then them... Troops getting recognition that they can wear doesn't diminish your service. I don't sulk around NDHQ upset because there are divers, boarding party, submariners, jumpers, etc... walking around with bling I don't have.

I agree with your broad argument but those devices are qualifications, not medals.

…and I’m sure if someone even whispers the words “I want to be a submariner”, someone in CANSUBCOM would sprint over to recruit them

 

[Furniture]

I agree with your broad argument but those devices are qualifications, not medals.

…and I’m sure if someone even whispers the words “I want to be a submariner”, someone in CANSUBCOM would sprint over to recruit them

True, but the "bling" arguments always come up. It happened with the boarding party course, and the NWO moustaches...

The old school way of not wearing qualifications or medals/ribbons in work dress was already dying in the early 2000s when we started wearing ribbons in work dress. It's a positive change, and I definitely welcome more of it. We should all be wearing trade badges in work dress, not just some army occupations and people with wings.

 

[dimsum]

True, but the "bling" arguments always come up. It happened with the boarding party course, and the NWO moustaches...

The old school way of not wearing qualifications or medals/ribbons in work dress was already dying in the early 2000s when we started wearing ribbons in work dress. It's a positive change, and I definitely welcome more of it. We should all be wearing trade badges in work dress, not just some army occupations and people with wings.

Ironically the RCN, which has every sort of trade-related festoonment on their service dress, doesn’t have a trade badge on NCDs. I also think the RCAF CADPAT-wearing folks should also wear trade badges, so I know at a glance who is what.

But I draw the line at ribbons - that’s not operationally necessary or useful.

But back to the DOMOPS recognition - maybe a nice sleeve patch?