WR said:
Get off your soap box and listen to what is being said again....
No one is saying what happened in Vancouver was correct, but like it has been said out here several times....let's not pass judgement on something until the whole story is out.
The Vancouver Police Chief had to apologize for the arrest, and retract a previous statement that the man had resisted arrest - and yet he looks like a piece of hamburger. How much more story do you need? He fell down the stairs to the lockup? Twelve times?
I really don't know what your issue with LEO's are, but you make a disparaging remark then counter it with "I have family members in law enforcement ". It is like a racist saying I am not a bigot I have a "insert colour" friend.
Now see, there's the problem - I'll correct your statement.
As I said numerous times before, I don't have a problem with the majority of LEOs, who are law-abiding. I do have a problem with those in the minority who abuse their authority, and live above the law they're supposed to uphold. You know why I made the statement that I have family in law enforcement, which was to counter the ludicrous claims that I was anti-police, so I don't know why you keep asking the question. Had you and others not attacked my support of LEOs (because I pointed out a few instances of police misconduct), I would not have had the need to expound upon why I do hold honest LEOs in high regard.
LEO's are giving you informed, educated and experienced opinions, but you choose not to listen. Instead you try and insert appeared misconduct of 2 officers in an agency of 1,327 sworn officers to bolster any argument you have.
You forgot the Fredericton Police Officer who has been charged with assault. Would you like me to find more examples of cops who have been convicted of criminal offences? You have this righteous indignation about you that LEOs can do no wrong - I have pointed out that they can and do. Why am I being pointed out as the bad guy?
Out here, in this thread contributing are active police officers, correction officers etc. As a LEO I personally spend a good part of my work week training others in use of force, tactics and firearms, so I know what I am speaking about. I do it for a living!
You're a peace officer for the purposes of
Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and an extremely limited section of the
Criminal Code, but you're not a police officer. How many times have you been tased? How many times have you employed the taser? Are you qualified on the taser?
I didn't just fall off the turnip truck - and I can make educated, fair comment on generalities without having to be an "expert" LEO.
Bruce Monkhouse said:
Occam,
He apologised for PC reasons, it's the "in" thing and doesn't officially change anything. He probably IS sorry someone [anyone] got beat up, there is nothing wrong with that.
Any official statements concerning the case would have to be retracted, to protect both sides in any future investigation, or would you rather have whomever is in the wrong 'walk' on account of that?
They arrested the correct person almost immediately after the mistaken arrest. If they held an honest belief that they had the right person the first time, and
beat the crap out of him for resisting arrest applied judicious use of force to effect the arrest, and then later recant their story about him resisting, what bearing does that have on the lawful arrest of the real offender 15 minutes later? None! The Chief of Police had no reason to retract the story other than the fact that it wasn't true. If it came out at a civil trial down the road that he knew Mr. Wu didn't resist arrest, and let the statement stand, there'd be a bunch of heads on the chopping block. There was nothing "PC" about it.
Now, I'm going to walk away from this thread. I was raised by a Police Officer, and raised to respect Police Officers - nobody here has any right to question my regard for them. The ones who stay on the right side of the law, anyway.
