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"Enemy combatant" (usual caveats re: Wikipedia, but includes documentation) - more here from the U.S. government, and here (Federal Court of Canada):Infanteer said:
The Khadr Thread
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Infanteer said:
Some were retained in custody for a period after the end of the war for various reasons including suspicion of war crimes, intelligence value, rank or appointment and perhaps that their homes were now in the Soviet zone.
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That would be up to Ontario, if he comes here to live, according to the feds quoted by Sun Media:KevinB said:
Of course, there's another option mentioned a few pages back....
milnews.ca said:
Which also leaves the fiery question: which war in Omar's case? The "war on terror"? Our involvement in AFG?Infanteer said:
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I'll help you mix it up.KevinB said:
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Back before winter, according to the HuffPo.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/09/12/omar-khadr-canada-return_n_1878041.html?utm_hp_ref=canada
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/09/12/omar-khadr-canada-return_n_1878041.html?utm_hp_ref=canada
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Pure speculation until they at least state the type of source. "Multiple sources" could mean 3 rank and file staffers with no direct knowledge on anything to do with Khadr. I just hope once he gets back here, he serves his entire sentence out and has some stiff conditions afterwards.
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2012/09/13/omar-khadr-canada-guantanamo-bay-return.html said:
Take you time, I say. Who needs to be pointing fingers blaming anyone...
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Guess he's coming back.
From MSN
Omar Khadr, who has been in a U.S. detention camp since October 2002 following his capture by U.S. forces in Afghanistan, is on his way to Canada from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to serve the balance of his sentence.
A military plane with Khadr on board left the U.S. Naval base on Cuba's southeast shore around 4:30 a.m. ET Saturday.
Under a plea deal with prosecutors in October 2010, Khadr admitted to being responsible for the death of American Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer.
In exchange for that plea, he was promised he would be transferred to Canada to serve out the rest of his sentence.
Top news
He agreed to a sentence of eight years, with no credit for time served, with the first year spent in U.S. custody
From MSN
Omar Khadr, who has been in a U.S. detention camp since October 2002 following his capture by U.S. forces in Afghanistan, is on his way to Canada from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, to serve the balance of his sentence.
A military plane with Khadr on board left the U.S. Naval base on Cuba's southeast shore around 4:30 a.m. ET Saturday.
Under a plea deal with prosecutors in October 2010, Khadr admitted to being responsible for the death of American Sgt. 1st Class Christopher Speer.
In exchange for that plea, he was promised he would be transferred to Canada to serve out the rest of his sentence.
Top news
He agreed to a sentence of eight years, with no credit for time served, with the first year spent in U.S. custody
A bit more from the Toronto Star. The story is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provision of the Copyright Act.
By Michelle Shephard National Security Reporter
Guantanamo prisoner Omar Khadr, the Toronto-born detainee whose decade-long case has bitterly divided Canadians, is on his way home to serve the remainder of his sentence.
The Toronto Star has learned that the 26-year-old prisoner was flown off the U.S. Naval base on Cuba’s southeast shore and expected to arrive in Canada early Saturday morning.
Guantanamo officials notified Khadr of his transfer Wednesday, assuring him he would be repatriated by the end of the weekend, a Pentagon source said.
Just where Khadr will be incarcerated – or where the U.S. military flight will land – continues to be a closely guarded secret.
But a Canadian government source told the Star in an interview earlier this year that the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines’ maximum-security facility, near Montreal, was a strong possibility. The prison’s Special Handling Unit, nicknamed “the SHU,” houses the majority of Canada’s prisoners convicted of terrorism offences.
More information on his whereabouts is likely to be released once he arrives on Canadian soil. The Khadr saga began more than a decade ago, in June 2002, on a battlefield in Afghanistan. The 15-year-old was shot and captured by an American Special Forces unit following a lengthy battle where U.S. Delta Force Sgt. Christopher Speer was fatally wounded.
Khadr is the second youngest son of now deceased Egyptian-born Canadian, Ahmed Said Khadr, who was close with Al Qaeda’s elite. The Khadr family’s unpopularity overshadowed much of his case.
In October 2010, Khadr pleaded guilty before a Guantanamo military tribunal to five war crimes, including “murder in the violation of war” for Speer’s death. He received an 8-year-sentence and a diplomatic agreement from Ottawa that after one more year he would be transferred to Canada in return for the plea deal.
Yet the guilty plea did little to change public opinion on the case. Some believe pleading guilty was the Canadian’s only way out of the detention facility where he had spent a third of his life. Others argue the sentence was too lenient and urged Ottawa to refuse his transfer request.
Navy Capt. John Murphy, Guantanamo’s chief prosecutor, told reporters following Khadr’s trial that he felt justice had been served. While he maintained Khadr’s juvenile status did not merit special consideration during the trial, he conceded it was important in sentencing.
“I think good prosecutors don’t always strive to get the greatest possible sentence but they balance interests,” Murphy said, adding, “I was very comfortable that the result we achieved was fair to everyone.”
But the case once again became politically charged this year - much to Washington’s consternation - as Public Safety Minister Vic Toews failed to act on Khadr’s application for transfer. Khadr’s lawyers accused the government of “abuse of process” for deliberately delaying a decision and made an application to the federal court.
Senior Obama administration officials told the Star last week that Washington’s patience with Ottawa was wearing thin and the Khadr case was jeopardizing future relations between the countries – although it is not clear if this pressured Ottawa to act.
Under Canada law, Khadr will now be eligible to apply for parole by next summer. In 2008, Khadr’s lawyers proposed a rehabilitation plan that included psychiatric treatment at Toronto's Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, religious counselling by a local imam and a tiered integration program that would see Khadr closely monitored for as long as four years.
However the government has given no indication that there is any formal plan in place for Khadr during his incarceration and has refused to answer questions on the case.
By Michelle Shephard National Security Reporter
Guantanamo prisoner Omar Khadr, the Toronto-born detainee whose decade-long case has bitterly divided Canadians, is on his way home to serve the remainder of his sentence.
The Toronto Star has learned that the 26-year-old prisoner was flown off the U.S. Naval base on Cuba’s southeast shore and expected to arrive in Canada early Saturday morning.
Guantanamo officials notified Khadr of his transfer Wednesday, assuring him he would be repatriated by the end of the weekend, a Pentagon source said.
Just where Khadr will be incarcerated – or where the U.S. military flight will land – continues to be a closely guarded secret.
But a Canadian government source told the Star in an interview earlier this year that the Sainte-Anne-des-Plaines’ maximum-security facility, near Montreal, was a strong possibility. The prison’s Special Handling Unit, nicknamed “the SHU,” houses the majority of Canada’s prisoners convicted of terrorism offences.
More information on his whereabouts is likely to be released once he arrives on Canadian soil. The Khadr saga began more than a decade ago, in June 2002, on a battlefield in Afghanistan. The 15-year-old was shot and captured by an American Special Forces unit following a lengthy battle where U.S. Delta Force Sgt. Christopher Speer was fatally wounded.
Khadr is the second youngest son of now deceased Egyptian-born Canadian, Ahmed Said Khadr, who was close with Al Qaeda’s elite. The Khadr family’s unpopularity overshadowed much of his case.
In October 2010, Khadr pleaded guilty before a Guantanamo military tribunal to five war crimes, including “murder in the violation of war” for Speer’s death. He received an 8-year-sentence and a diplomatic agreement from Ottawa that after one more year he would be transferred to Canada in return for the plea deal.
Yet the guilty plea did little to change public opinion on the case. Some believe pleading guilty was the Canadian’s only way out of the detention facility where he had spent a third of his life. Others argue the sentence was too lenient and urged Ottawa to refuse his transfer request.
Navy Capt. John Murphy, Guantanamo’s chief prosecutor, told reporters following Khadr’s trial that he felt justice had been served. While he maintained Khadr’s juvenile status did not merit special consideration during the trial, he conceded it was important in sentencing.
“I think good prosecutors don’t always strive to get the greatest possible sentence but they balance interests,” Murphy said, adding, “I was very comfortable that the result we achieved was fair to everyone.”
But the case once again became politically charged this year - much to Washington’s consternation - as Public Safety Minister Vic Toews failed to act on Khadr’s application for transfer. Khadr’s lawyers accused the government of “abuse of process” for deliberately delaying a decision and made an application to the federal court.
Senior Obama administration officials told the Star last week that Washington’s patience with Ottawa was wearing thin and the Khadr case was jeopardizing future relations between the countries – although it is not clear if this pressured Ottawa to act.
Under Canada law, Khadr will now be eligible to apply for parole by next summer. In 2008, Khadr’s lawyers proposed a rehabilitation plan that included psychiatric treatment at Toronto's Centre for Addiction and Mental Health, religious counselling by a local imam and a tiered integration program that would see Khadr closely monitored for as long as four years.
However the government has given no indication that there is any formal plan in place for Khadr during his incarceration and has refused to answer questions on the case.
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To the same tarmac that our dead returned too........shame.
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Should have dropped the ramp for him at 2600' and booted him out the door with the load master yelling " welcome back to Canada".
No doubt someone in Parliament will bring it up on Monday about why he isn't released yet.....
No doubt someone in Parliament will bring it up on Monday about why he isn't released yet.....
This story which includes offical confirmation of his arrival from the National Post site is reproduced under the Fair Dealing provision of the Copyright Act.
Omar Khadr has been returned to Canada, Vic Toews confirms
Canadian Press | Sep 29, 2012 9:58 AM ET | Last Updated: Sep 29, 2012 10:28 AM ET
Public Safety Minister Vic Toews confirmed that Khadr landed this morning at the Canadian Forces Base in Trenton, Ont.
In a statement from Winnipeg, the minister says the 26-year-old Toronto-born man will be held at the Millhaven Institution, a maximum-security prison in Bath, Ont.
In October 2010, Khadr pleaded guilty to five crimes in violation of the rules of war, including the killing of U.S. army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer during a gunfight in Afghanistan.
Khadr, Canada’s only convicted war criminal, has been eligible to return to Canada for nearly a year under a special plea bargain deal.
He was 15 years old when he was captured — badly wounded and almost blind — in the rubble of a bombed out compound in Afghanistan in July 2002.
He was transferred to Guantanamo Bay a few months later and has been held there since.
He applied to transfer to Canada in April of last year to serve the rest of his sentence in a Canadian prison.
Khadr is the son of Ahmed Said Khadr, an Egyptian-born Canadian with ties to al-Qaida and was the last westerner to be held at the U.S. military prison.
Vic Toews full statement on Omar Khadr’s return:
Early this morning, convicted terrorist Omar Khadr was transferred to Canadian authorities at CFB Trenton.
This was done pursuant to a decision I made earlier this week.
He arrived at 07:40 ET aboard a U.S. government aircraft travelling from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
He has been transferred from CFB Trenton to Millhaven maximum security prison at Bath, Ontario.
Omar Khadr is a known supporter of the al-Qaeda terrorist network and a convicted terrorist.
He pleaded guilty to the murder of Sergeant First Class Christopher Speer, an American Army medic, who was mortally wounded in a firefight in Afghanistan on July 27, 2002 and died on August 6, 2002.
Omar Khadr also pleaded guilty to providing material support for terrorism, attempted murder in violation of the law of war, conspiracy and spying.
Omar Khadr was born in Canada and is a Canadian citizen. As a Canadian citizen, he has a right to enter Canada after the completion of his sentence.
This transfer occurs following a process initiated by the United States government and determined in accordance with Canadian law.
The remainder of his prison sentence will be administered by the Correctional Service of Canada.
I am satisfied the Correctional Service of Canada can administer Omar Khadr’s sentence in a manner which recognizes the serious nature of the crimes that he has committed and ensure the safety of Canadians is protected during incarceration.
Any decisions related to his future will be determined by the independent Parole Board of Canada in accordance with Canadian law.
Thank you.
Omar Khadr has been returned to Canada, Vic Toews confirms
Canadian Press | Sep 29, 2012 9:58 AM ET | Last Updated: Sep 29, 2012 10:28 AM ET
Public Safety Minister Vic Toews confirmed that Khadr landed this morning at the Canadian Forces Base in Trenton, Ont.
In a statement from Winnipeg, the minister says the 26-year-old Toronto-born man will be held at the Millhaven Institution, a maximum-security prison in Bath, Ont.
In October 2010, Khadr pleaded guilty to five crimes in violation of the rules of war, including the killing of U.S. army medic Sgt. Christopher Speer during a gunfight in Afghanistan.
Khadr, Canada’s only convicted war criminal, has been eligible to return to Canada for nearly a year under a special plea bargain deal.
He was 15 years old when he was captured — badly wounded and almost blind — in the rubble of a bombed out compound in Afghanistan in July 2002.
He was transferred to Guantanamo Bay a few months later and has been held there since.
He applied to transfer to Canada in April of last year to serve the rest of his sentence in a Canadian prison.
Khadr is the son of Ahmed Said Khadr, an Egyptian-born Canadian with ties to al-Qaida and was the last westerner to be held at the U.S. military prison.
Vic Toews full statement on Omar Khadr’s return:
Early this morning, convicted terrorist Omar Khadr was transferred to Canadian authorities at CFB Trenton.
This was done pursuant to a decision I made earlier this week.
He arrived at 07:40 ET aboard a U.S. government aircraft travelling from Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
He has been transferred from CFB Trenton to Millhaven maximum security prison at Bath, Ontario.
Omar Khadr is a known supporter of the al-Qaeda terrorist network and a convicted terrorist.
He pleaded guilty to the murder of Sergeant First Class Christopher Speer, an American Army medic, who was mortally wounded in a firefight in Afghanistan on July 27, 2002 and died on August 6, 2002.
Omar Khadr also pleaded guilty to providing material support for terrorism, attempted murder in violation of the law of war, conspiracy and spying.
Omar Khadr was born in Canada and is a Canadian citizen. As a Canadian citizen, he has a right to enter Canada after the completion of his sentence.
This transfer occurs following a process initiated by the United States government and determined in accordance with Canadian law.
The remainder of his prison sentence will be administered by the Correctional Service of Canada.
I am satisfied the Correctional Service of Canada can administer Omar Khadr’s sentence in a manner which recognizes the serious nature of the crimes that he has committed and ensure the safety of Canadians is protected during incarceration.
Any decisions related to his future will be determined by the independent Parole Board of Canada in accordance with Canadian law.
Thank you.
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Official announcement.
http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15592
IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 784-12
September 29, 2012
Detainee Transfer Announced
The Department of Defense announced today that Omar Ahmed Khadr was transferred from the detention facility at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Canada.
Omar Khadr pleaded guilty, pursuant to a pre-trial agreement in a military commission, to murder in violation of the law of war, attempted murder in violation of the law of war, conspiracy, providing material support for terrorism, and spying.
Pursuant to the pre-trial agreement, the convening authority approved an eight-year sentence of confinement. The pre-trial agreement specifies that one year of confinement must be served in the custody and control of the United States, and that Khadr could be transferred to Canada to serve the remainder of his sentence in accordance with Canadian law.
The United States Government has returned Khadr to Canada where he will serve out his remaining sentence. The United States coordinated with the government of Canada regarding appropriate security and humane treatment measures. In accordance with statutory reporting requirements, the administration informed Congress of its intent to transfer Khadr to Canada.
Documents related to Khadr’s military commission proceedings are available on the Office of Military Commissions website at http://www.mc.mil/ .
Today, 166 detainees remain in detention at Guantanamo Bay.
http://www.defense.gov/releases/release.aspx?releaseid=15592
IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 784-12
September 29, 2012
Detainee Transfer Announced
The Department of Defense announced today that Omar Ahmed Khadr was transferred from the detention facility at Naval Station Guantanamo Bay, Cuba to Canada.
Omar Khadr pleaded guilty, pursuant to a pre-trial agreement in a military commission, to murder in violation of the law of war, attempted murder in violation of the law of war, conspiracy, providing material support for terrorism, and spying.
Pursuant to the pre-trial agreement, the convening authority approved an eight-year sentence of confinement. The pre-trial agreement specifies that one year of confinement must be served in the custody and control of the United States, and that Khadr could be transferred to Canada to serve the remainder of his sentence in accordance with Canadian law.
The United States Government has returned Khadr to Canada where he will serve out his remaining sentence. The United States coordinated with the government of Canada regarding appropriate security and humane treatment measures. In accordance with statutory reporting requirements, the administration informed Congress of its intent to transfer Khadr to Canada.
Documents related to Khadr’s military commission proceedings are available on the Office of Military Commissions website at http://www.mc.mil/ .
Today, 166 detainees remain in detention at Guantanamo Bay.
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.... from the Public Safety Canada web page (also attached if link doesn't work for you):
From the Minister's decision, apparently signed yesterday (also attached):
From the Minister's decision, apparently signed yesterday (also attached):
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