US Election: 2016

[ModlrMike]

The lust for power belongs to no lone spot on the political spectrum.

Normally I would agree, but there's that whole "Natural Governing PartyTM" thing I keep hearing.

 

[The Bread Guy]

Normally I would agree, but there's that whole "Natural Governing PartyTM" thing I keep hearing.

Ah, but does that mean the fire to rule doesn't exist in the loins of Team Blue or Team Orange?  Once they start eating the majority apple, they get mighty used to the flavour ...

 

[Kirkhill]

Ah, but does that mean the fire to rule doesn't exist in the loins of Team Blue or Team Orange?  Once they start eating the majority apple, they get mighty used to the flavour ...

My party's campaign theme:

"So just leave me alone
Leave me alone (leave me alone) (leave me alone)
Leave me alone (leave me alone) (leave me alone) (leave me alone)
Leave me alone, stop it!
Just stop doggin' me around"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Ww02hBysQ0

Any party adopting that song has my vote.

Or, for the more country inclined

"Leave me alone, won't you leave me alone
Please leave me alone now, leave me alone
Leave me alone, please leave me alone, yes leave me
Leave me alone won't you leave me alone
Please leave me alone, no leave me alone
Leave me along, just leave me alone, oh leave me"

https://youtu.be/sKfqHsiHWJU

Edit:  I can stand with George MacDonald Fraser -

"My favourite prime minister was Sir Alec Douglas-Home, not because he was on the Right, but because he spent a year in office without, on his own admission, doing a damned thing."

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[tomahawk6]

Elections have consequences and when Obama took office,he was all about his agenda without compromise.Now its the democrats who will be odd man out.Harry Reid changed the rules in the Senate requiring a simple majority for Supreme Court judges instead of 60.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2016/11/15/why_mitch_mcconnell_might_want_to_keep_the_filibuster.html

 

[Brad Sallows]

Reid had the filibuster rules removed for federal judicial appointments, but not for Supreme Court appointments.

 

[Retired AF Guy]

Iowa lawmaker is fed up with the hysteria/protests going around university/colleges over the recent election of Donald Trump. He has prosed a law to put a stop to the protests and has called it the 'Suck it up, Buttercup' bill.

Iowa lawmaker's 'suck it up, buttercup' bill targets protests

Brianne Pfannenstiel , bpfannenst@dmreg.com 7:04 p.m. CST November 14, 2016

One Iowa lawmaker has a message for any state university that spends taxpayer dollars on grief counseling for students upset at the outcome of last week’s presidential election: “Suck it up, buttercup.”

“I’ve seen four or five schools in other states that are establishing ‘cry zones’ where they’re staffed by state grief counselors and kids can come cry out their sensitivity to the election results,” said Rep. Bobby Kaufmann, R-Wilton. “I find this whole hysteria to be incredibly annoying. People have the right to be hysterical … on their own time.”

Kaufmann plans to introduce a piece of legislation he’s calling the “suck it up, buttercup bill” when the Legislature resumes in January.

It would target state universities that use taxpayer dollars to fund election-related sit-ins and grief counseling above and beyond what is normally available to students. Those that do would be subject to a budget cut for double the amount they spend on such activities, Kaufmann said. It also would establish new criminal penalties for protesters who shut down highways, like those who briefly closed Interstate Highway 80 in Iowa City during a protest against President-elect Donald Trump last week.

Protesters in opposition of the election of Donald Trump marched through Iowa City to Interstate 80 to block traffic.

The legislation comes barely a week after the close of a contentious presidential election that elevated conversations about "political correctness" and the "liberal elite" into a national dialogue.

Tim Hagle, a political science professor at the University of Iowa, said that in some ways, Trump's candidacy and his election have emboldened conservatives to push back.

"Sometimes it’s hard to keep up on what’s considered good or bad or appropriate or not in any given context," he said. "At a certain point, and I think this was reflected in the election results, people get tired of it. It’s wearing to always be considered a racist if you don’t toe a particular line and use certain language."

No money spent, universities say

Spokesmen for the state’s public universities said it's important for students to have a chance to talk about the election and what it means for them. They say that although they have held a number of events to help students discuss and process the election results, they are not spending additional state resources to do so.

“I think universities are the perfect place to have these types of conversations,” said Scott Ketelsen, director of university relations at the University of Northern Iowa. “It’s where people learn. It’s where they share ideas. I don’t consider it coddling.”

At UNI, students and faculty got together at three different “sharing sessions” to discuss the election, their fears and their anxieties. Ketelsen said there was no money spent on them.

Students and faculty at Iowa State University held a rally and marched to the president’s office, and student groups at the University of Iowa held their own events. Both schools said they did not spend extra money on those events.

Protests and coping sessions have popped up across the country after Trump's expectations-defying victory.

National polls going into election night showed Democrat Hillary Clinton as the likely victor. She won the popular vote, but her Republican rival won several competitive states to gain a majority in the Electoral College. Clinton was forced to concede defeat early Wednesday morning.

While half the country cheered Trump’s election, the other half reacted with sadness and even fear.

“This election was somewhat unique,” Ketelsen said. “It wasn’t like previous elections, so the response wasn’t like previous elections. And that’s OK. But people have to be able to sit down and have open dialogue and honest communication with one another.”

Josh Lehman, communications director for the Iowa Board of Regents, said his office doesn’t comment on legislation until it’s been introduced.

Highway protest causes concern

Protests have not been limited to college campuses. About 250 people gathered on the steps of the Iowa Capitol last week. And in Iowa City, more than 100 protesters shut down Interstate 80 for about 30 minutes as they marched from downtown Iowa City and onto the highway.

Kaufmann said a second component of his bill would make it easier for law enforcement authorities to charge protesters criminally if their protests block highways and roadways.

Iowa City bumps up against his district, and he said he heard complaints from numerous constituents who were stuck in traffic, including one woman who was trying to pick up her daughter from school and another who was rushing her cat to an urgent veterinary clinic.

“What would have happened if there was someone being rushed to the hospital?” he asked.

Kaufmann said he’s working to convene a law enforcement task force to consider options. Officers now could potentially charge protesters with certain violations, but he said many have told him they’d like clarity on the issue.

“I have no issue with protesting," he said. "In fact, I would go to political war for anyone who wanted to protest or dissent and they couldn’t. But you can’t exercise your constitutional right by trampling on someone else’s. When they blocked off Interstate 80, they crossed a line.”

Sgt. Nathan Ludwig, public information officer for the Iowa State Patrol, said state troopers worked quickly and cleared away 77 protesters in 19 minutes to reopen I-80.

He said his office doesn’t comment on pending legislation, but he said protests that take over the interstate pose a threat to public safety.

“If you want to protest, you’re free to do that, but doing it on the interstate’s probably the last place you want to do it,” he said. “I would say it’s a very, very dangerous situation for people to go on an interstate.”

Kaufmann said he plans to introduce the bill when the Iowa Legislature resumes in January.

Republicans kept their majority in the Iowa House of Representatives on Election Day and regained the majority in the Iowa Senate, giving them greater leeway to pass legislation pushed by conservatives.

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[The Bread Guy]

One cluster of pretty specific promises (from #POTUS44's FB feed) to be done by 30 April 2017 ...

It'll be interesting to see how many more of these issue cluster's we'll be seeing soon - and how it unfolds.

 

[FJAG]

Congressional term limits will need a constitutional amendment like the 22nd limited the presidential terms.

My guess is it will never get enough support to pass muster.

[cheers]

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Popular vote? If Clinton thought she had the chance, she'd go for recounts.

However, doing that might expose all the voter fraud that the DNC minions have been, supposedly, documented as approving.

 

[cupper]

One cluster of pretty specific promises (from #POTUS44's FB feed) to be done by 30 April 2017 ...

It'll be interesting to see how many more of these issue cluster's we'll be seeing soon - and how it unfolds.

That's 45. Obama is 44.

 

[mariomike]

21 Nov., 2016

New York City spending more than $1 million dollars per day protecting Donald Trump from NYC protesters.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/11/21/new-york-city-spending-more-than-1-million-per-day-on-donald-trump-report-says.html

Securing Trump Tower could cause a traffic nightmare
http://nypost.com/2016/11/14/securing-trump-tower-could-cause-a-traffic-nightmare/

 

[tomahawk6]

They will be repaid once he is in office.Getting the security bill I hope gets him to move to the White House rather than commute.

 

[mariomike]

They will be repaid once he is in office.Getting the security bill I hope gets him to move to the White House rather than commute.

I read that NYC can ask for reimbursement from the Federal government. But, it is not automatic and it is never paid in full.

Goes on to say, And those costs won't necessarily drop significantly once he moves to the White House.
That's because Melania Trump and their 10-year old son Barron expect to stay at their home at Trump Tower in midtown Manhattan, at least until the end of the school year. And Donald Trump has indicated he plans to return home regularly.
Adding to the expense is the cost of police assigned to Trump's adult children and his grandchildren, who are also receiving Secret Service protection, John Miller, NYPD's deputy commissioner of intelligence & counterterrorism, told WCBS Monday. All of them live in the city, and all are entitled to receive Secret Service protection.
The police have set up barricades around Trump Tower at 56th Street and 5th Avenue, smack in the middle of the city. While a block of 56th street has basically been closed to traffic, 5th Avenue remains open, although the traffic flow on that major thoroughfare has been affected.
And as Trump moves through the city, police need to close streets accordingly. For example, the Lincoln Tunnel was closed to traffic on Friday afternoon during rush hour when Trump traveled to New Jersey."

With just two weeks before the crushing crowds of holiday shoppers and tourists descend on the Big Apple, some of the swankiest retailers near President-elect Trump’s private residence on Fifth Avenue are wondering if this will be the worst season ever.

The tight ring of security surrounding Trump Tower between 56th and 57th streets, where protestors have been gathering since Election Day night, is creating an environment of fear rather than festivity.

“Some high-end shoppers may not even want to go there now,” said Tom Cusick, president of the Fifth Avenue Business Improvement District, which has been fielding calls from anxious members.

“There is very sharp concern by the retailers located between 56th and 57th streets,” which include Tiffany & Co., Gucci, Prada and Piaget, Cusick added.

Lots more in the story,
http://nypost.com/2016/11/11/trump-protests-poised-to-ruin-5th-avenue-christmas-shopping/

Not just NYC. Even if there are no personal injuries or property damage, there are traffic delays and police overtime.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election_protests

 

[Brad Sallows]

I suppose if they managed Joe Biden's commute, they can manage Trump's quiffs.

 

[CountDC]

I am thinking as it is the people of NY causing the problem with their protests then the Federal government may very well tell NY to deal with it and I wouldn't blame them.

 

[mariomike]

I suppose if they managed Joe Biden's commute, they can manage Trump's quiffs.

I don't believe Joe Biden was protested as much as Mr. Trump is. That complicates things.

I am thinking as it is the people of NY causing the problem with their protests then the Federal government may very well tell NY to deal with it and I wouldn't blame them.

It's not just the people of NY causing problems,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election_protests

 

[a_majoor]

Send the bill to George Soros, the DNC and every other organization that has been calling for or hiring protesters for these demonstrations, and I'll be the problem comes to a very swift end.

They always act when they can send the bill to someone else (the taxpayer), but when it comes to spending their own money, Ebenezer Scrooge has nothing on them.

 

[Jed]

Send the bill to George Soros, the DNC and every other organization that has been calling for or hiring protesters for these demonstrations, and I'll be the problem comes to a very swift end.

They always act when they can send the bill to someone else (the taxpayer), but when it comes to spending their own money, Ebenezer Scrooge has nothing on them.

Too true.

 

[CountDC]

It's not just the people of NY causing problems,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump#Post-election_protests

In the case of New York it is

 

[cupper]

Ah, Canada Party, awesome as ever. :rofl:

https://youtu.be/4ORe6TmRjOQ