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US Presidential Election 2024 - Trump vs Harris - Vote Hard with a Vengence

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Harris might have did better if she included P-Diddy to her celebrity endorsement list and concerts; he's certainly a hit with the Hollywood elite.
Strange. Apparently they had to pay for the entertainers. Oprah charged a million bucks. Pretty cheesy of a billionaire. It puts their endorsements in question when they're being paid enormous sums to stump for Harris.
 
How can a convicted felon become President of the United States? How could decent people vote for him?





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I may have said this before. In my time in the US I worked in the fishing industry. I worked on factory trawlers and in small fishing towns. I trained people in the processing plants how to use the lines I designed and installed. The people I trained were Mexicans, Brazilians and Guatemalans. I trained Japanese and Norwegians. And I trained Americans: black, white and brown. And I trained, and worked alongside, lots of folks with tattoos and patches, inked teardrops and cobwebs with pins. I worked alongside trades people that couldn't cross state lines because of felony convictions.

And I never felt unsafe in any of those plants. I also never observed any discrimination on any grounds whatsoever. I did observe criminality, usually related to gangs from points of origin of the foreign workers - exploited over telephone cards and the occasional knife fight between Guatemalans and Filipinos for example.

But by and large, my sense of those small town factories in both red and blue states, is that those folks on the lines felt they had an awful lot more in common with each other. I never saw a disturbance based on race, gender, or any kind of sexuality. Everyone was too busy counting their change and hoping that there was enough fish to keep the lines open for another week or two.

And Trump was really popular.

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When you have a society that results in as many felons, prison graduates, as you have college graduates, you shouldn't be surprised when the felons vote for one of their own.

And if one third of society has been convicted, how many have been prosecuted? Have been investigated? Have friends and families that have been investigated, prosecuted, convicted, incarcerated?

Where is the stigma? The shame that is supposed to act as a deterrent?
I'll add that there's likely millions of voters that recognized the lawfare for what it was. They probably don't feel he's a felon at all. Others just don't care. They were afraid and scared what life was going to be under the Dems and voted accordingly.
 
Some interestingly framed questions there.
Border crossings over the last few months. How about the last four years?
Stock market high? The market is priced in dollars.
Inflation declined over the last year? The price of goods today vs four years ago (including the price of Stocks).
Violent crimes down? How about non-violent crimes and reporting rates?

It is not misinformation. It is the application of information and what is important to the user.
That doesn’t change the question though. The point of the article was media consumption and its effects on public opinion.

If I said “are border crossings up or down over the last few months” and people answer “well how about the last 4 years”, that’s not answering the question. It was a True / False question for that timeframe.
 
That doesn’t change the question though. The point of the article was media consumption and its effects on public opinion.

If I said “are border crossings up or down over the last few months” and people answer “well how about the last 4 years”, that’s not answering the question. It was a True / False question for that timeframe.

That may have been the media question but was it relevant to the person being given their quadrennial chance to decide on the fate of their rulers?
 
I mean maybe. Do you suggest that the US get rid of its defence capabilities including the nuclear triad to test the theory out?
I'm suggesting high ranking US officials benefit monetarily the US role of world police.

And while Russia is a really shitty country, the only thing stopping them from going full Command and Conquer isn't a thin blue line in Ukraine.

Don't get me wrong, grinding Russia down there is great. Americans might be questioning what their taxes are getting them that's all.
 
I'm suggesting high ranking US officials benefit monetarily the US role of world police.

And while Russia is a really shitty country, the only thing stopping them from going full Command and Conquer isn't a thin blue line in Ukraine.

Don't get me wrong, grinding Russia down there is great. Americans might be questioning what their taxes are getting them that's all.
of course the same is true everywhere and always

the US military exists only to counter a threat from Russia?

5% of the defence and security budget. I think id be asking questions elsewhere
 
Strange. Apparently they had to pay for the entertainers. Oprah charged a million bucks. Pretty cheesy of a billionaire. It puts their endorsements in question when they're being paid enormous sums to stump for Harris.
Edit: the million for Oprah was for the interview they asked her to do for Harris. All the entertainment was still paid for though. Perhaps that's how she raised over a billion dollars, but is currently 20 mill in the hole.
 
I'm suggesting high ranking US officials benefit monetarily the US role of world police.

And while Russia is a really shitty country, the only thing stopping them from going full Command and Conquer isn't a thin blue line in Ukraine.

Don't get me wrong, grinding Russia down there is great. Americans might be questioning what their taxes are getting them that's all.
The most chaotic of the Great Game players bled dry, good American jobs created or maintained in arms manufacturing, a potential trade partner and ally freed of a tyrant's attentions... there's so many angles to sell it, from the purely moral to total self-interest.

The questioning should be of the trickle approach, at this point: it's waste without purpose. The Russians are fixed, now, more or less: they're not at Day 4, and oh maybe this was a terrible idea, we'll turn around and head home with our forces intact. Time to blow up what's left of their army.
 
I enjoy betting pools. Out of morbid curiousity, I checked the Celebrity Death Pool.

As of 4 Nov., 2024:

Trump is ranked at #103.

Between Engleburt Humperdink #102 and Kim Novak #106.

Joe Biden comes in at #39.

Between Gene Hackman #38 and Michael Dukakis #41.



 
... It’s about a democratic principle that should be consistent regardless of who wins and regardless of your political stripe.
Depending, among some, on whether you like who wins, and who loses ;)
... The US sends Ukraine 300 Bradley IFVs. The government then uses tax dollars to replace those Bradley's.
And where does this tax money get spent? In offshore factories making Bradley's?

@RangerRay appears to be correct ....
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... Pretty cheesy of a billionaire ...
As opposed to billionaires using their own properties to conduct government business on the taxpayer's dime? Discuss ;)
But we'll see if that changes during Trump Time 2.0.
 
You can add Hungary, Czechoslovakia and Afghanistan to that list.

Arguably, you could add all of the Eastern European countries they “liberated” since they just turned them into satellites anyways.
 
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