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Walts, posers & wannabes (merged)

Brihard said:
Just to throw a note of caution in and to play devil's advocate, to the best of my knowledge, none of us are actually privy to the grounds on which his SM was awarded.

All I know is just what I read in the papers,

"He has been wounded himself, having his nose partially amputated and having been shot in the leg. Rodriguez earned a Sacrifice Medal as a result, among a number of his honours."
http://www.newsoptimist.ca/news/local-news/national-day-of-honour-commemorates-afghanistan-mission-1.1573287#sthash.mirTDf0y.dpuf

"Rodriguez received a Sacrifice Medal, the highest commendation given to a reservist, for his decision to delay his medical attention for five hours to allow other soldiers to be brought to safety."
http://www.chathamdailynews.ca/2012/03/15/two-classes-of-war-vets

"I got my nose partially amputated, I got shot in the leg. I got wounded,” he says.
As a result, he received a sacrifice medal (which he says is the same as the Purple Heart in the United States) and a sacrifice stripe."
http://battlefordsdailynews.com/afghan-war-vet-from-hafford-says-canadians-made-a-positive-difference-there/

Edit to add,

"While on his tour of duty, Rodriguez also had part of his nose shot off by an Afghan child shooting a rock from a slingshot.
He said he refused immediate care himself, telling his commander, "I still have my legs and my arms and my eyes, so the mission must continue."
Five hours later, it took 26 stitches to reattach the hanging chunk of flesh to his nose."
http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/2009/06/08/medic-recalls-hardships-of-war




 
I had not heard the "shot in the leg" part, before.  If accurate, that would seem to qualify him for the SM.

Regards
G2G
 
I had a kid throw a rock at me and hit me in the face. Cut my nose open, bounced off my face and flew inside the G-Wagon and hit another soldier in the face hard.  Funniest thing ever. Wish I had known I could have got some bling because of it though.

Has anyone sat this dummy down and had a face to face with him and straight out asked him why he's such a dummy?
 
I was on the same Roto as Lord Byron. His SM was for the nose thingy. But.....his nose was not partially amputated, it was more split in half - quite nasty still. The convoy did carry on, and he was not evacuated - he insists that he was heroically adamant it carry on with him, others say it carried on regardless as it was not necessary or feasible to send up a 9 Line. If my memory is still good, it was a routine convoy, not an evac mission as he seems to allege in one of his interviews. The other two members of his Amb crew would likely have more info.....
 
mariomike said:
All I know is just what I read in the papers,

"He has been wounded himself, having his nose partially amputated and having been shot in the leg. Rodriguez earned a Sacrifice Medal as a result, among a number of his honours."
http://www.newsoptimist.ca/news/local-news/national-day-of-honour-commemorates-afghanistan-mission-1.1573287#sthash.mirTDf0y.dpuf

"Rodriguez received a Sacrifice Medal, the highest commendation given to a reservist, for his decision to delay his medical attention for five hours to allow other soldiers to be brought to safety."
http://www.chathamdailynews.ca/2012/03/15/two-classes-of-war-vets

"I got my nose partially amputated, I got shot in the leg. I got wounded,” he says.
As a result, he received a sacrifice medal (which he says is the same as the Purple Heart in the United States) and a sacrifice stripe."
http://battlefordsdailynews.com/afghan-war-vet-from-hafford-says-canadians-made-a-positive-difference-there/

Yes, yes the infamous 'Sacrifice Stripe'...which turned out to be, in fact, a Private chevron, cut in half. 

Fool me once, shame on you.  Fool me TWICE, shame on me.  I have no time and nothing (positive) to say about his type of POS, regardless of his tours and years of service.  He did a dishonour to everything he ever did, by choices of his own. 

I think he, and all like him, are lucky they don't get their teeth knocked down their throat.
 
He is not the first and only 'compulsive liar' to serve.  Nor is he the only one in CAF history who has greatly embellished his history/stories.  We all know them and probably all hold the same opinion of them.  When they overstep their bounds, step on their dicks and are outed, it is a little justice in itself. 
 
At the very least, is it too much to ask Walts to be useful pretenders like, Ferdinand Waldo Demara, aka "The Great Imposter".  He served in the RCN during Korea successfully masquerading as a medical officer on HMCS CAYUGA and actually performed medical surgeries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Waldo_Demara
 
jollyjacktar said:
At the very least, is it too much to ask Walts to be useful pretenders like, Ferdinand Waldo Demara, aka "The Great Imposter".  He served in the RCN during Korea successfully masquerading as a medical officer on HMCS CAYUGA and actually performed medical surgeries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Waldo_Demara

Great big balls there. :nod:
 
recceguy said:
Great big balls there. :nod:

Oh yes, Godzilla sized ones.  I do wonder, however, if he rates as a Walt in the true sense of the word.  After all, he really did the deed albeit while using someone else's identity.  He's more of an identity thief perhaps than a Walt.
 
jollyjacktar said:
Oh yes, Godzilla sized ones.  I do wonder, however, if he rates as a Walt in the true sense of the word.  After all, he really did the deed albeit while using someone else's identity.  He's more of an identity thief perhaps than a Walt.

He wasn't seeking kudos. I'd also say he was more an identity thief than anything else.
 
jollyjacktar said:
Oh yes, Godzilla sized ones.  I do wonder, however, if he rates as a Walt in the true sense of the word.  After all, he really did the deed albeit while using someone else's identity.  He's more of an identity thief perhaps than a Walt.

I'd say there is quite a difference.  Demara only lied about his qualifications, not about his actions.  He also seems to have been quite a charming guy (or at least Tony Curtis was  ;D)
 
jollyjacktar said:
At the very least, is it too much to ask Walts to be useful pretenders like, Ferdinand Waldo Demara, aka "The Great Imposter".  He served in the RCN during Korea successfully masquerading as a medical officer on HMCS CAYUGA and actually performed medical surgeries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Waldo_Demara

One of my first ER patients here was on CAYUGA when he was the "MO".  He thought he was a fairly decent guy.  The guy was a serious identity thief...he eventually retired as a bona fide ordained priest at a hospital, after having pretending to be one.

MM
 
Pusser said:
I'd say there is quite a difference.  Demara only lied about his qualifications, not about his actions.  He also seems to have been quite a charming guy (or at least Tony Curtis was  ;D)

Some semi-official thoughts about the Great Imposter.

http://publications.gc.ca/collections/collection_2014/mdn-dnd/D61-15-2004-eng.pdf
. . .
The Royal Canadian Navy in Korea, as it had in previous conflicts,
fought a war much removed from the army and air force. Doctors were
few and far between, the navy having to compete for recruits with the
other two services and Canada as a whole. They were at a distinct disadvantage
as few medical practitioners were prepared to go to sea for
months at a time when there were so many more pleasant alternatives;
furthermore, the war against the North Koreans (and, eventually, the
Chinese) somehow failed to capture the public imagination in the same way
as the crusade against the Nazis. In any event, recruits with the
necessary medical skills were sufficiently rare that when one presented
himself, in the words of RCN historian Edward C. Meyers, "He was
pounced upon with the swiftness of an eighteenth-century press
gang." 3

This explains why a complete impostor, Ferdinand Demara, could join
Canada's naval service as a surgeon with the stolen credentials of a Doctor
Joseph Cyr of New Brunswick. As had his predecessors in the
Second World War, however, he found that his duties aboard HMCS
Cayuga were mainly routine steam burns, cuts, rashes, and similar complaints.
He was also fortunate in having as his assistant Petty Officer
Robert Hotchin, whose medical education was not much short of that
of a general practitioner ashore. Still, the doppelganger, as Cyr, handled
even the more stressful aspects of the job well: "The ship's records
show Demara to have performed several operations during a two month
period" as Cayuga supported South Korean amphibious raids
against the North, "ranging from the amputation of a gangrenous foot
to the removal of bullets from arms and elsewhere. He operated quickly
and efficiently, and gave no one any reason to question his talents as a
surgeon. "4

His moment of glory came in September 1951. After a raid by South
Korean commandos, called Salamanders, on the 7th, three of the raiders
were left seriously wounded and by the 10th were close to death.
Demara took one look and made a snap decision. He ordered the startled
Hotchin to bring his surgical equipment to the upper deck at once. He
quickly explained that he felt at least one would die while awaiting his
turn in the sick bay. By treating all three at once, he might be able to
pull them through. Demara did an admirable job. The worst of the three
would surely have died had treatment not been swift and expert. By thc
time he had finished he had collapsed the lung and removed a bullet
from the man with the chest wound while successfully treating the other
two as well. Demara had indeed saved the three men, but the greatest
feat was the work he did on the chest wound. While the collapse of a
lung might have been accomplished by any qualified medical assistant,
Demara had known exactly what to do and how to do it.'

The result, however, was publicity, exposure by the real Doctor Cyr,
and a quiet dismissal from the RCN—or almost. Some three decades later,
Demara attended a reunion of Cayuga's complement, where "he was
greeted with warmth by those who had known him as a friend and
shipmate twenty- eight years before. The welcome made it obvious that
Demara had made no enemies aboard Cayuga. By all accounts he enjoyed
the party." 6
. . .

However, while he may have been appreciated by his shipmates, the view of his competence (and likeability) was probably not universal.  At a mess dinner I attended back in the 1980s the topic of Demara came up during post-meal drinking at the bar.  One of those still hanging around the bar was a retired senior medical officer who had started in the RCN.  He related that he had been stationed in Halifax at the same time as the gentleman in question and like all the GDMOs most of their work day was at the naval hospital.  His opinion of Demara - or Cyr, as he knew him - (and which he claimed was probably the standard opinion of the other doctors who worked with Demara) was that Demara was the biggest ***-kisser he had ever seen in his career. Whenever the imposter had to see a patient and if it was anything other than the usual "sick, lame and lazy" that showed up on sick parade (and sometimes even it was a minor complaint), he would seek out another MO or more usually one of the specialists and fawningly ask for an opinion of what was always "an interesting and unusual case".  The officer relating the story presented the possibility that he may been sent to Cayuga just to get rid of him.

 
So send the incompetent troublemaker to sea, and keep the better MOs ashore? 
 
I think even by Demara's own account, he would often delay treatment until he had a chance to dig into the medical books to figure it out.
 
I read an account of him having to pull a tooth out of CAYUGA's CO - he went and did a bunch of reading after seeing him, under the guise of getting his stuff, apparently overdid it on the cocaine a bit and got it out.  The CO seemed a bit confused since he had to point out the rotten tooth to him, not to mentioned getting a little over juiced.

As a sidebar, in the movie "The Great Imposter", the Med A on ship was made to look like a dolt who fainted/puked at the sight of blood, unlike it seems from the account provided by Blackadder.

MM
 
Speaking of folks impersonating Doctors - in today's news there is the story of an 18 year old in Florida impersonating a Doctor....'Doctor' Malachi Love-Robinson.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/florida-teen-impersonates-doctor-1.3452807
 
Staff Weenie said:
....'Doctor' Malachi Love-Robinson.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/florida-teen-impersonates-doctor-1.3452807

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/florida-teen-impersonates-doctor-1.3452807

On a separate religious-themed website, Love-Robinson says he is an ordained minister with the Universal Life Church, having done a doctoral thesis that "explored the paradoxical nature of certain Christian doctrines and the implications for the rationality of Christian faith." The Universal Life Church is an internet-based church that will ordain anyone 13 or older who fills out a short form
Déjà vu.  Maybe he'll claim to be a combat-wounded Medic next, based on precedent.  After all, 'Lord Byron' isn't using his medals/jump wings.... for now.  :nod:
 
Journeyman said:
Déjà vu.  Maybe he'll claim to be a combat-wounded Medic next, based on precedent.  After all, 'Lord Byron' isn't using his medals/jump wings.... for now.  :nod:

Maybe if they claimed their actions as cosplay they'd "get away with it".  [:D
 
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