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It’s either base on Pollara or Leger, he doesn’t say. Both show a BCCP lead.
Pollara:
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This from 338 shows just how close the odd of winning/ not winning are…
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WRT The Conservative Vote
I think Conservatives at large are benefitting from people realizing that change is only possible if the Conservatives get a majority. Every other vote results in a constellation of parties that all agree with each other regardless of who is Prime Minister.
I think Conservatives at large are benefitting from people realizing that change is only possible if the Conservatives get a majority. Every other vote results in a constellation of parties that all agree with each other regardless of who is Prime Minister.
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Are you taking about provincial (BC) or federal elections?
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Yes?
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You are right....
Baldrey: How 'federal Liberals and orphaned Greens' may decide the 2024 B.C. election
These voters hold a lot of power with the loss of the B.C. Liberal Party and lack of finalized Green candidates, says columnist Keith Baldrey.Two groups of potential voters may prove to have a decisive impact on the outcome of the provincial election.
One group is the roughly 600,000 people who voted for the federal Liberal party in B.C. in the 2021 election. Presumably most of them voted for the B.C. Liberal Party — remember it? — during provincial elections, and a fair number voted for the NDP.
But with the B.C. Conservative Party taking a hard swing to the right and aligning itself with the positions and language used by the Pierre Poilievre-led federal Conservative Party, how much of that federal Liberal voting bloc will swing to the B.C. party?
Former B.C. Liberal stalwarts such as former B.C. health minister Terry Lake have already publicly expressed concerns they no longer have a “home” when it comes to supporting a political party. Former B.C. Liberal MLA Karin Kirkpatrick says this lack of a “home” — she says she can’t support either the B.C. NDP or the B.C. Conservatives — is what is partly motivating her to run as an independent candidate in the West Vancouver-Capilano riding.
NDP leader David Eby’s promise this past weekend of a $1,000 tax cut seems aimed directly at the middle-class federal Liberal voter. And don’t be surprised if the New Democrats convince a prominent federal Liberal — such as a current or past MP — to endorse their campaign or at least one of their candidates.
The other pool of voters is a much smaller group, but they are strategically located.
These would be the roughly 20,000 people who cast votes for the B.C. Green Party in about nine ridings in 2020 and 2017, but now find themselves without a Green Party candidate to vote for.
That is because the B.C. Greens were unable to find candidates in 24 ridings before the deadline to fill spots expired this past weekend.
The question now becomes who do those orphaned Green Party voters opt for with no Green candidate on the ballot?
Baldrey: How 'federal Liberals and orphaned Greens' may decide the 2024 B.C. election
These voters hold a lot of power with the loss of the B.C. Liberal Party and lack of finalized Green candidates, says columnist Keith Baldrey.
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Both.
By and large, in Canada, there is a host of Leftish parties that are bonded in the belief that there shall never be a Rightish government. The only way to get a Rightish government is to vote for the Rightish party, usually only singular.
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Gotcha!!
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Baldrey: How 'federal Liberals and orphaned Greens' may decide the 2024 B.C. election
These voters hold a lot of power with the loss of the B.C. Liberal Party and lack of finalized Green candidates, says columnist Keith Baldrey.
Two groups of potential voters may prove to have a decisive impact on the outcome of the provincial election.
One group is the roughly 600,000 people who voted for the federal Liberal party in B.C. in the 2021 election. Presumably most of them voted for the B.C. Liberal Party — remember it? — during provincial elections, and a fair number voted for the NDP.
But with the B.C. Conservative Party taking a hard swing to the right and aligning itself with the positions and language used by the Pierre Poilievre-led federal Conservative Party, how much of that federal Liberal voting bloc will swing to the B.C. party?
Former B.C. Liberal stalwarts such as former B.C. health minister Terry Lake have already publicly expressed concerns they no longer have a “home” when it comes to supporting a political party. Former B.C. Liberal MLA Karin Kirkpatrick says this lack of a “home” — she says she can’t support either the B.C. NDP or the B.C. Conservatives — is what is partly motivating her to run as an independent candidate in the West Vancouver-Capilano riding.
NDP leader David Eby’s promise this past weekend of a $1,000 tax cut seems aimed directly at the middle-class federal Liberal voter. And don’t be surprised if the New Democrats convince a prominent federal Liberal — such as a current or past MP — to endorse their campaign or at least one of their candidates.
The other pool of voters is a much smaller group, but they are strategically located.
These would be the roughly 20,000 people who cast votes for the B.C. Green Party in about nine ridings in 2020 and 2017, but now find themselves without a Green Party candidate to vote for.
That is because the B.C. Greens were unable to find candidates in 24 ridings before the deadline to fill spots expired this past weekend.
The question now becomes who do those orphaned Green Party voters opt for with no Green candidate on the ballot?
Baldrey: How 'federal Liberals and orphaned Greens' may decide the 2024 B.C. election
These voters hold a lot of power with the loss of the B.C. Liberal Party and lack of finalized Green candidates, says columnist Keith Baldrey.
Who is further to the right?
Bill van der Zalm or Pierre Poilievre?
Social Credit still resonates in BC, Alberta and in Eastern Quebec (La Beauce).
BC Liberals hoovered up Soc Creds as the only viable opposition to the NDP.
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That's an insultingly small amount of money. How does it work for people who don't pay $1,000 or more in provincial taxes?
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Meanwhile, the straw that will break the NDP's back 
The B.C. Conservatives have made embracing single-use plastics – including straws – part of the party's 2024 election platform.
In a news release, the party called the NDP government's decision to ban plastic cutlery and reduce the availability of plastic straws province-wide "heavy-handed," and suggested the regulations have "burdened" voters.
“The ban on plastic straws has been nothing but a nuisance for families and businesses across B.C.," said leader John Rustad, in a statement. "It hasn’t achieved any significant environmental goals, but it has certainly made life worse for people."
The party also pledged to eliminate bag fees for shoppers.
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B.C. Conservatives vow to embrace single-use plastics, including straws
The B.C. Conservatives have made embracing single-use plastics – including straws – part of the party's 2024 election platform.
In a news release, the party called the NDP government's decision to ban plastic cutlery and reduce the availability of plastic straws province-wide "heavy-handed," and suggested the regulations have "burdened" voters.
“The ban on plastic straws has been nothing but a nuisance for families and businesses across B.C.," said leader John Rustad, in a statement. "It hasn’t achieved any significant environmental goals, but it has certainly made life worse for people."
The party also pledged to eliminate bag fees for shoppers.
B.C. Conservatives vow to embrace single-use plastics, including straws
The B.C. Conservatives have made embracing single-use plastics – including straws – part of the party's 2024 election platform.
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Women and children first...
A new poll has the BC Conservatives leading the province’s provincial election race, with key support coming from an unexpected area.
The survey from pollster Leger pins the Conservatives in first place with 46 support among decided voters, followed by the BC NDP with 43 per cent and the BC Greens trailing in third with 10 per cent.
Steve Mossop, Leger’s executive vice-president for western Canada, said the support of women and young voters forms a crucial part of the Conservative gains.
globalnews.ca
Women, young voters helping underpin BC Conservative momentum: Poll
A new poll has the BC Conservatives leading the province’s provincial election race, with key support coming from an unexpected area.
The survey from pollster Leger pins the Conservatives in first place with 46 support among decided voters, followed by the BC NDP with 43 per cent and the BC Greens trailing in third with 10 per cent.
Steve Mossop, Leger’s executive vice-president for western Canada, said the support of women and young voters forms a crucial part of the Conservative gains.
Women, young voters helping underpin BC Conservative momentum: Poll | Globalnews.ca
Steve Mossop, Leger's executive vice-president for western Canada, said the support of women and young voters forms a crucial part of the Conservative gains.
globalnews.ca
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Those bag fees pissed off a lot of people. First they ban plastic bags, then the government added a 2$ tax on reusable bags purchased to replace plastic bags. Not just grocery stores, but everywhere from buying plumbing supplies to clothing. Yet there’s no tax or surcharge on anything wrapped in plastic delivered by Amazon.Meanwhile, the straw that will break the NDP's back
B.C. Conservatives vow to embrace single-use plastics, including straws
The B.C. Conservatives have made embracing single-use plastics – including straws – part of the party's 2024 election platform.
In a news release, the party called the NDP government's decision to ban plastic cutlery and reduce the availability of plastic straws province-wide "heavy-handed," and suggested the regulations have "burdened" voters.
“The ban on plastic straws has been nothing but a nuisance for families and businesses across B.C.," said leader John Rustad, in a statement. "It hasn’t achieved any significant environmental goals, but it has certainly made life worse for people."
The party also pledged to eliminate bag fees for shoppers.
B.C. Conservatives vow to embrace single-use plastics, including straws
The B.C. Conservatives have made embracing single-use plastics – including straws – part of the party's 2024 election platform.
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Looking back at elections since the 70’s, the free-enterprise coalition won if they received 3 percentage points or more of the vote over the NDP. In 1996, the BC Liberals were under 3 points above the NDP, but didn’t win more seats than them. To me, the close numbers indicate that the BC Conservatives are missing a small, but important piece of that coalition that they need to win the election. Even if with these numbers they manage to win more seats than the NDP, it’s possible that one seat held by the Greens or an independent could determine who gets to form government, like in 2017.
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One of the bigger Elephants in the room...
www.timescolonist.com
Les Leyne: Election campaigns may sail past B.C. Ferries' lurking problem
Much of the good news stems from one event: the half-billion dollar, one-time bail-out the government granted the corporation last year.
www.timescolonist.com
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Provincial government is going to have to bite the bullet and raise fares to cover whatever the increases are in operating costs, or hold all cost increases - including compensation - within the 3% per year fare hike maximum they want to maintain, or reduce some of the sailings on money-losing routes.
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Somebody really chuckled heartily to themselves writing that headline.One of the bigger Elephants in the room...
Les Leyne: Election campaigns may sail past B.C. Ferries' lurking problem
Much of the good news stems from one event: the half-billion dollar, one-time bail-out the government granted the corporation last year.
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If they increase the prices of taking the ferry, there will be much pushback. OTOH taxing non-ferry users is unfair.
Perhaps a tunnel!! The media loved that one from Doug Ford in Ontario!!!
Perhaps a tunnel!! The media loved that one from Doug Ford in Ontario!!!
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Is it any more unfair than free use of highways, bridges and tunnels?
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