Brexit Vote: 51.9% leave, 48.1% stay

[Fishbone Jones]

One final comment from me on the day.

I have been seeing an awful lot of this: "What happens next?" 

The short answer is exactly the same as it was the day before the referendum and the same as it would be had the Brits voted to stay.

No one knows.

:goodpost:

They spent centuries going it alone against Europe. The corporate knowledge on how to do that is still there. They won't have any insurmountable problems going it alone again.

There are other countries that are fed up with the balance of power flip flopping only between Germany and France, being dealt out of negotiations, being told who and how many immigrants they have to take, yada, yada, yada. If enough of these look at the UK and say 'Hey, it works!' the EU will be nothing but a very expensive, failed experiment when they all pull out.

Canada, the US, Europe (in general) and some other countries in the free world are getting sick of professional politicians. People have decided they want some miniscule control over their own lives and are starting to lash out at anything that even resembles government control. It's bad enough when they are your own elected people, but when it's someone in another country telling you what to do, it's getting intolerable for lots of people.

 

[George Wallace]

Which brings us to this:

 

[Fishbone Jones]

Absolutely incorrect.



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I really didn't think I would need a sarcasm smilie there. Who knew?  :dunno:

 

[jmt18325]

I really didn't think I would need a sarcasm smilie there. Who knew?  :dunno:

I don't get what the sarcastic joke was really supposed to be there.  Canada accepts immigrants based on their points score, no matter their skin colour.

 

[YZT580]

It is OK to make fun of yourself and others with politically incorrect jokes, honest!  I sometimes long for the days of polack, newfie, and Irish jokes.  Now the only ones you can laugh at or about without risk of being sued are the Baptists.  Seriously though, the EU brought this upon themselves with their louse-milking over trivia and trying to dominate the whole of every society.  And all administered by unelected officials who are answerable to no one, or so it seems.  They have pages of regulations just describing what shape and size a tomato must be before it can be marketed.  I think that the British just got tired of being told, they don't take kindly to that and never have.

 

[MilEME09]

The Canada Party is trolling the UK and the US. They tweeted:

Would you really want scots and newfies in the same army? we already have radios that barely work, whats the point if the people on them cant be understood!?

 

[YZT580]

They at least would understand each other.  And they make great sergeant majors simply because no one understands them.

If you can, read Colby Cosh's column in the National Post re: us and Brexit.  I's link it but I am electronically challenged. Basically calls us hypocrites for criticizing in Britain's aspirations the very things that we enjoy for ourselves, well written IMHO.

 

[Kirkhill]

YZT

The ties that bind.

 

[jmt18325]

It is OK to make fun of yourself and others with politically incorrect jokes, honest!

Yeah, sometimes I'm too defensive.

 

[Fishbone Jones]

I just read that Brussels (EU HQ) wouldn't let Britons buy Dyson vacuums because of the machines power usage.

That is the kind of utter bullshit that had Britain walk. Hopefully, a bunch of others grow a spine and walk away also. The New World Order is collapsing and it's not soon enough.

 

[cupper]

Watching the news tonight, they put the economic losses in perspective:

Globally stocks lost a total of $2.1 Trillion US, US exchanges lost $850 Billion.

 

[cupper]

Scots are trolling Trump on Twitter over his erroneous tweet about Scotland celebrating the results.

So far my favorite is weasle headed f#$%trumpet, with mangled apricot hellbeast a close second.

 

[daftandbarmy]

The historian and constitutional expert Lord Hennessy explains why the UK has never really warmed to Europe.

The crossbench peer told PM presenter Eddie Mair: "Europe was set up by clever, catholic, left wing, French bureaucrats, and most Brits have got problems with at least three of those five." 

 

[jollyjacktar]

"The Wogs start at Calais."

 

[Cloud Cover]

The historian and constitutional expert Lord Hennessy explains why the UK has never really warmed to Europe.

The crossbench peer told PM presenter Eddie Mair: "Europe was set up by clever, catholic, left wing, French bureaucrats, and most Brits have got problems with at least three of those five."

He's right, and so should we (as JT pushes us into the EU) ... http://www.international.gc.ca/trade-agreements-accords-commerciaux/agr-acc/ceta-aecg/index.aspx?lang=eng

 

[jmt18325]

Because it's the Trudeau government that negotiated CETA....

 

[Kirkhill]

Left wing bureaucrat.  Catholic cleric.  All same same.

 

[tomahawk6]

Only when Europe casts off their socialism will they see econmic improvement.The millions of refugees they have accepted will be a huge drag on their economy and a blow to their national identity.The refugees should be returned to their home countries as a start.

 

[Jarnhamar]

Only when Europe casts off their socialism will they see econmic improvement.The millions of refugees they have accepted will be a huge drag on their economy and a blow to their national identity.The refugees should be returned to their home countries as a start.

Well said.

 

[Cloud Cover]

Because it's the Trudeau government that negotiated CETA....

He is leading the government in power, is he not? He could have said lets have a look at this agreement more closely and make sure it ties the boxes of the best interests for Canadians instead of just certain small groups of Canadians aspiring to some more European.

That trade deal imposes on Canada business a set of rules, regulations and standards that go far beyond anything that is pragmatically needed to trade freely and fairly. Now, to be fair, rules that require certain emissions standards, power connections etc. are one thing if they are tied to the use of the product on their own and in the EU. But to impose those requirements all the way back into the manufacturing process of all goods manufactured or designed here, regardless if destined for the EU, is costly for business, interferes with our ability to create our own rules of production and sale, and that reduces the sovereignty of our own institutions just a little, and collectively, little by little becomes too much.  Some businesses will flourish, some will pull back and not trade at all. Western Canadian mine and minerals (including heavy oil)
if they ever had a chance of rebounding, is hobbled a little by this particular agreement unless the only customers are on the pacific coast and happen to be India and China.

However the integration of those rules into our own domestic laws puts this country at the mercy of EU trade requirements that contain social policy and security objectives not necessarily in the best interests of Canada. And yes, the Cons started the process and were perhaps responsible for some or even most of the outcome. So much again for real change though, eh?  We already suffer some of these issues long ago with ITARS and our export control compliance regime that is dictated in large measure by the United States, and even when we do have certain successes under NAFTA etc, we still seem to eventually come out on the losing end.

I don't trust the EU and it's Parliament, fair trade access to the common market is where this should stop.